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Originally Posted by scg87
W/ great driving, the GT500 has run low 12's. Mid 12's is the norm, though, and figure a few extra tenths for a 'Vert. But from a roll, he would've walked you.
W/ 360 to the wheels, no way would he have 'killed' him. He may be a mid 12 sec car, but his HP deficit would put him at a disadvantage from a roll. He would've no doubt gave him a good run, and depending on drivng skill, maybe won, but it by no means have been a blowout.
Not to flame, but a stock GTO is not beating ANY supercharged S197 GT w/ equal driver's. Even the most modest kits put them in the 430rwhp ballpark..
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Again no clue what your talking about. You need to stick to the Nissan forum.
The GT500 is between a 12.8 and 13.1 according to the road tests. The ones I've seen at the track that are stock aren't breaking into the 12's. Sorry that's the real world.
The vert GT500 is over 100 lbs heavier and they are slower by a tenth or 2 so you got that right.
By guessing LT Chappa's car was a 12.5 car I was really selling him short. The C5 Z06 runs low 12's stock and can even get into the 11's with 360-370 rwhp. I was adding a tenth for weight and a tenth for tires, the Z06 doesn't have runflats, and another tenth for good measure. That puts his car, using 12.5, faster than the vert GT500 by .4 to .7 tenths. Also a C5 Vette with that kind of HP is trapping 117-118. The GT500 traps 112-114. The base C6 beats the GT500 pretty easily, and the LS2 doesn't put 360hp to the ground stock. It would be a cake walk, kinda like a GTO beating up on a stock S197 Mustang GT an easy half second advantage to the GM car in either case.
You need to get out into the real world and watch what cars actually do at the track. It will surprise you.
Most people that add a supercharger to a Mustang are going to enhance other areas of the car. With that said, a modified Mustang with a supercharger will usually beat a stock GTO. But what NJ Goat is talking about, from the description of the car, is a Ford dealer installed supercharger from the Ford Racing catalog. The tune use and the level of the boost is set low enough that the car still carries it's stock warranty. It's a very mild set-up that isn't nearly as aggressive as a Saleen or Roush. The GTO will beat it.
As far as your estimate that ANY supercharged S197 puts 430 hp to the wheels, look at the Roush. It puts well let the video do the talking.
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