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Originally Posted by Tulsa F. Chapter
I'm new to the forum, and looking to see if anybody else has seen this.
I purchased a new manual shift, 2006 GTO and at 3200 miles, and 6 weeks later, I had a funny sound one day when I started it up. I drove it directly to the dealer about 5 miles away.
After them having it for 2 weeks, they came back and said the sound was the lifters being screwed because of the fact there was NO OIL in the car.
A battle ensued an and the end result was a "GM Engineer" coming back and saying it was my fault, because I didn't check the oil at every gas up like it says in the manual, so we're not going to warranty this. According to them, there was blow by around the pistons, and that is how the oil disappeared. They blamed this on me not knowing how to drive a stick shift, even though I've been driving a stick shift since I was 12 years old. I talked to several mechanics and they all said that if several quarts of oil disappeared by blow by in 6 weeks, there was something wrong with the engine. Not a single one said they have ever heard of such a thing, and two of them specialize in LS1/LS2 engines.
Legal proceedings are pressing forward, but I thought I would see if anyone on this forum have heard of such a thing.
-Tulsa
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You're not going to like what I have to say here, but here goes.
I'm using your original post because youdidn't think I read it.
With the mechanics determining that it was blow by, that means you lost about 1 qt per 600-700 miles. The engine probably had some oil in it when you made it to the dealer and didn't make it to Zero qts. I'm basing this off the belief that an engine would need at least 1 to 1-1/2 qts qts to allow the valves to function properly. With out the valves functioning properly the engine would not run right. That's when you noticed it.
GM has some fault for the engine having that much blow by. Some may be attributed to your driving style also. But the majority of the fault lays on you. You're the person that didn't check the oil in a 6 week/3200 mile period and that is the main reason your engine failed. If you would have caught it early on, at say 1000 miles and added the quart and a half that were missing, and then checked again and found it was low again, they could have done an oil consumption test and solved the problem before the engine was destroyed.
I have heard of some of the 2001 LS1's having excessive blow by and I know a guy that used a quart of oil every 6-700 miles in his 01 Vette. GM offered to install new rings, but he didn't want them to open the engine up and drove it to over 120,000 mile before trading it in a month ago for a new Vette.
So yes I have heard of it. The difference between his situation and yours is that he followed the owners manual and common sense and checked his oil.
I think for you to be using a lawyer to go after GM for your failure to check your oil is part of what's wrong with our entire society right now.
No personal responsibility.
Sorry if it offends you, but that's my opinion.
People buy houses they can't afford and when the market goes bust they blame the bank for offering a creative way to finance them. They blame the real estate agent for talking them into too much house. They knew the risks and if the market wouldn't have busted they would have been happy.
Women have children with no way to support them and it's somehow my responsibility to pay taxes to support them for the rest of their life.
People buy cars and don't check the oil once in 3200 miles and they feel that I and the rest of the people on this forum should have to pay higher prices when we buy a car for their failures.
Sorry no sympathy from me. I think you should be a man and own up to your mistakes and learn from them.
