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Old 06-22-2008, 03:58 PM   #11 (permalink)
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.... and whatever happend to the damage on your friend's Goat?
He`s running it through his insurance and they are going to repair/replace everything that got wet. My shop might even get the job!
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lol ok well its a true story sorry from the line i killed him and when we went from a 100 he got me by like 2 cars
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lol ok well its a true story sorry from the line i killed him and when we went from a 100 he got me by like 2 cars
So you killed him and then he killed you?

454rwhp in 3800lbs vs. 604 flywheel hp, 738ft lbs torque (underrated) in 4500lbs.

I doubt you're trapping deep into the 120s, 2nd race proved that.
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yea i dont know the damage im going to the shop 2morrow because they were closed over the weekend. so dont worry ill find out all the details so i can tell you and you can stop complaining about everything ok just stop reading my post
As far as the race went I don't care if you won or lose and I'm not here to call bs to your story. I would like to see pics of the damage though. Can you post pics? If you post pics at least a part of your story will be proven.
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So you killed him and then he killed you?

454rwhp in 3800lbs vs. 604 flywheel hp, 738ft lbs torque (underrated) in 4500lbs.

I doubt you're trapping deep into the 120s, 2nd race proved that.
454 rwhp in a goat would be about 567 at the fly 33 less than the amg sl65 which is 700 lbs more. should have been a pretty nice dogfight with the advantage towards the amg car since they are usually set up pretty efficiently. i'm not here to call BS or to stand on a soap box but by the numbers it looks as if what he says should be true. amg didn't have enough traction to roll on him down low but at the 100 mph mark seems like no one was traction limited and the amg prevailed. i've never seen an amg sl65 in action, but from what i have heard i'd say it sounds pretty reasonable.
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shore i can do that i have to go up there tomorrow
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454 rwhp in a goat would be about 567 at the fly 33 less than the amg sl65 which is 700 lbs more. should have been a pretty nice dogfight with the advantage towards the amg car since they are usually set up pretty efficiently. i'm not here to call BS or to stand on a soap box but by the numbers it looks as if what he says should be true. amg didn't have enough traction to roll on him down low but at the 100 mph mark seems like no one was traction limited and the amg prevailed. i've never seen an amg sl65 in action, but from what i have heard i'd say it sounds pretty reasonable.
If you think there is 20% loss in the drivetrain, I've got a nice bridge to sell you too.

Considering the OP also said it was a SL600 but provided virtually no details, it's not even worth debating.
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If you think there is 20% loss in the drivetrain, I've got a nice bridge to sell you too.

Considering the OP also said it was a SL600 but provided virtually no details, it's not even worth debating.
well let's see, when i dynoed my 06 which is said to have 400/400 i got 317, 319 for numbers. this was in january 2007. let's do the math.

400-317 = 83.
83 /400 *100 = 20.75%
400-319= 81.
81/400*100=20.25%

so i not only THINK there is 20% drivetrain loss, i KNOW from experience there is that 20% drivetrain loss. so sell your bridges then i've got a demolition crew for you! i'd almost like to pull the engine and just dyno the engine to see what i come up with just to make sure my engine isn't making 320 hp and i'm losing less than 20% in the drivetrain.
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well let's see, when i dynoed my 06 which is said to have 400/400 i got 317, 319 for numbers. this was in january 2007. let's do the math.

400-317 = 83.
83 /400 *100 = 20.75%
400-319= 81.
81/400*100=20.25%

so i not only THINK there is 20% drivetrain loss, i KNOW from experience there is that 20% drivetrain loss. so sell your bridges then i've got a demolition crew for you! i'd almost like to pull the engine and just dyno the engine to see what i come up with just to make sure my engine isn't making 320 hp and i'm losing less than 20% in the drivetrain.
Did you happen to find out what M6 cars dyno'd at that location? Was it a Mustang dyno? Do you really think the performance difference between the M6 and A4 is 20hp+ AND gearing? Do you think a lock-up torque converter doesn't close the gap significantly from a the days of 2 & 3 speed autos from the 60s? What do other A4s dyno at?

Answer those questions and I'll bet 20% seems awfully pessimistic.
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Did you happen to find out what M6 cars dyno'd at that location? Was it a Mustang dyno? Do you really think the performance difference between the M6 and A4 is 20hp+ AND gearing? Do you think a lock-up torque converter doesn't close the gap significantly from a the days of 2 & 3 speed autos from the 60s? What do other A4s dyno at?

Answer those questions and I'll bet 20% seems awfully pessimistic.
another m6 car dynoed at 525 at the same location but it was an 04 with procharger. as far as performance difference betwixt the two, as the brochure says, there's virtually no difference between the two so take your pick. so NO it's not the 60's 70's nor 80's where an auto or manual would make a performance difference. look at various track times for equal mods and the numbers are pretty close. sure one can come up with a thousand and one questions on why something can't be so. who's to say jrad's dyno was correct? there's plenty of variables and dyno tricks that can be done to produce higher and lower numbers. give you an example. the first one of my car was at 317, the second went to 283, the 3rd run went to 305. all from simple playing with some figures. i still feel like 15-20% is a decent bet, and 20% losses is what i'll use just from experience.

out of respect for jrad, i'm not posting anymore that doesn't pertain to his race sorry man
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