Virus E

With in the first few days of owning my used 04 gto i noticed that it had a problem with down shifting into first. I took her to the dealer and was told that this was a non issue. I fought with the dealer and was finally able to make him see things from my point of view. As much as they didn’t want to fix my car its hard to argue that the car shouldn’t be able to downshift into first when Pontiac is saying it has a 40mph first gear downshift lockout. I took the car in to have it fixed last Wednesday and after some looking they said that my pressure plate, clutch and slave cylinder are toast. They are going to fix it under warranty but the slave cylinder is backordered. The stealership offered me a rental car which I was happy to accept. Under normal situations this would sound like a good thing. The problem is they gave me a brand new G6 4 door, the goat will be down until next Monday and did I mention that I am now driving a g6 to work instead of my gto? The problem is this G6 is honestly one of the worst cars I have ever been in. I wish I could sound constructive and say something good about it but the car just plain sucks. Its so bad I thought about taking a bus to work this week, chance are I would get there faster. I know what you are think “the car only cost 18000 (msrp on the model I have) new” but that my issue with it. My srt-4 was only 20k, my fiancés 04 Tiburon gtv6 was only 20k and a friend of mine just got a non si 07 civc which was 18000. All of the cars I just named blow this turd out of the water for 2k more at most. Its hard to believe Pontiac is still in business selling trash like this for 18000. The radio is one of the worst I have heard in years, the engine sounds worse than a civic with a fart pipe, the seats are some of the worst I have sat in, the dash was made from even cheaper plastic than my neon srt-4s, It has hubcaps (even scions that cost 12000 have rims), the switch to turn on the lights is rubbish, it has nothing good about it and yet it cost 18000. For god sakes it makes 152 hp at the crank and it cost 18000?!?!?!? My srt-4 made 231 to the wheels, 255tq, equal length half shafts, a quafie lsd and rims for only 2k more!?!?!? When I step on the pedal the engine doesn’t even start to move up in the rpm range for about 1.5 seconds! Cars like this are the reason I want holden emblems; Its hard living with the shame of owning Pontiac after driving this disservice to engineering. My goat is a holden, that’s my story and I am sticking to it.

 

fergyflyer

WOW!!! I had the exact opposite experience. I drove a G6 for 2 days and was really impressed with the car. The one I drove was a V6, but it was comfortable, quiet and had good fit and finish. Power was great. I was thinking the exact opposite of you, why would anyone want an Accord when for $5,000 less you can get this. What a difference an engine makes.

The only complaint I had was the rotors were warped, but it did have 15,000 rental car miles on it.

Why would you even think about downshifting to 1st at 40 mph????

Rustybronco

I rented a G6 in baltimore a few weeks before Christmas and was quite impressed. I drove it up to Hanover Pa. I don't know if it was a 4 or 6 but it had great power, and I'm 6'3" and had plenty of leg room.

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Virus E

The model I have is the bare bones base model. It has no options at all. A friend of mine just bought an 07 civic that cost the same amount and it was a waaay better driving car and everything felt very solid. The car wouldnt be such a bad car to me if it didnt cost so much. For 18k I need a bit more than 152 hp, hubcaps and no options. If it was 15000 i wouldnt have as much to say. I stongly prefered the hyundai ****** I once drove that cost 16000. On the way to work this am it start making a real bad thunking noise whenever I went over a bump. The entire car just feels so cheap, crappy and bland.

GTOJon

My roommate has a fully-optioned G6. I wouldn't mind having that as my 'other' car. Inside and out it's a very decent car. Comfortable and a nice fit and finish, not bad at all. I wish our stereo system was half as good. Comparing this car to what it replaced, I'd say Pontiac/GM is really heading in a good direction.

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dustyminpin

you're lucky, when my '06 was at the dealership for 10 days while they waited for my backordered struts and bushings they gave me an '06 malibu LS. now THAT was the worst car i'd ever been in, 144 hp and all. the interior could've been slapped together by kindergardeners, i'd hate to see what the inside of an aveo looks like.

Good 2 go

The only time I go down to 1st is when I'm almost at a crawl, maybe less than 10mph.

I've experienced a few "bad apple" loaners/rentals before, and other examples of the same vehicles were much better. Those cars take serious abuse, and I've heard some stories of stunts in them that would make you cringe. I personally would never purchase a vehicle from a rental fleet.

DriftingIsGay

I think you hit the nail on the head. I realize car enthusiasts know lots about their cars but almost nothing about the company that builds them. GM is in serious financial trouble. There was even talk of selling off Buick. I'm adding a picture of their stock chart. Just five years ago they were worth almost $70 a share now about $30 and thats up from $19 less than one year ago.

I believe they rested on their laurels so to speak while the Japanese started putting out a better product. Now they risk bankruptcy. Btw Ford is no better off. I'd love to see Ford and GM merge to stay afloat.

The only reason I like the GTO is because it's built in Australia and is superior to the Pontiacs built here.

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