Thanks guys I'm starting to understand a little more. What are the differences between long tube and short tube headers though, besides the long tubed ones being better? Why are they better? Does anyone here with long tubes drive on the street or is that strictly a track thing? Oh and am I the only one that thinks the Brazen Orange GTO looks awesome haha?
Long and short refers to the length of the tubes between the flange at the head to the 4-into-1 collector on the end. The longer ones are slightly better performing, thus better for racing, but bad for the road (some not street legal).
I just made a Google search, but can't find anything conclusive on what brands make street legal long pipe headers. Are these street legal versions any better than say mid pipe headers? A mustang website states that "If you need catalytic converters for a lenient emissions county, you can get by with mid length headers and high flow catalytic converters." Are these almost as good as long pipes, or is there no point in getting them? I'm assuming that generally it is a good idea to get new headers with a new exhaust system, am I right? Also, a muffler is just what gives certain cars a different exhaust sound, right? I.e. Fart Cans.
Do you not have a GTO? Why can't you live your dream? That sounds very sad to me. I really want to bite the bullet, I just need to save up a little more for a down payment.
Why is it that by what you said in this post, I'm getting the picture of a poor little rich kid? Hell man, I'd venture to say that most of us didn't have the means to pay for our dream car when we were 19. I find it hilarious that you didn't seem to be able to comprehend that. Not trying to make you feel bad, I'm just thinking you need to visit the real world.
Do you not have a GTO? Why can't you live your dream? That sounds very sad to me. I really want to bite the bullet, I just need to save up a little more for a down payment.
Haha, I just decided that I enjoy spending time with my friends/family as much as I can, rather than working at a job I don't like. Also, I really don't like working inside too much and the thought of a desk job scares the hell out of me.
To each his own though, and if you're willing to trade time from one aspect to another then its your choice to make.
I must say though, if you were a spoiled rich kid, you present yourself in a very proper manner, anyway.
Lol not a rich kid, but my dad does provide. What's so rich about getting a $16,000 car though? I understand that it's not a beater or anything, but it's not like getting a brand new $30,000 car, ya know? I would be putting like a $3,000 down payment on it and paying the rest off monthly of course. The down payment is half from me, and the monthly payments are going to be at least 75% from me. My dad is going to be the primary driver under the insurance, with me being an occasional driver. My parents are going to spot me for insurance though, luckily.
Lol not a rich kid, but my dad does provide. What's so rich about getting a $16,000 car though? I understand that it's not a beater or anything, but it's not like getting a brand new $30,000 car, ya know? I would be putting like a $3,000 down payment on it and paying the rest off monthly of course. The down payment is half from me, and the monthly payments are going to be at least 75% from me. My dad is going to be the primary driver under the insurance, with me being an occasional driver. My parents are going to spot me for insurance though, luckily.
That's getting treated pretty nicely by your Dad. It's not spoiled though.
My first car was $3600. That was in 1984 though, so it would be more like 9-10,000 today. My dad co-signed the loan, that was the extent of the help, I financed $3000 for 30 months and had a car payment of 135 a month.
We went golfing every weekend. Once a month he would say lets take the Magnum. On the way back from golf he say he needed a drink and to stop at a gas station. When we pulled in he would say hit the pump and filler up, he was buying. That was the only other help I got. Oh he'd buy the drinks too.
Ya - my dad would help out in the gas Dept. too, from time to time. He was not a rich man and did the best he could. It did not help that my first car did not have working gas gauge. It was a Plymouth Satellite sold to me as a 4-door Road Runner, too young and stupid to know the difference. The car also did not have a reverse, no back seats, jacked-up way high in the back, bald tires, all primer, wipers did not work, no seatbelts, burned oil like mad, giant hood scoop. I think that just about covers it. Luckily I did not kill myself in that bucket of bolts… Bought it in 84 too for $650...
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That's getting treated pretty nicely by your Dad. It's not spoiled though.
My first car was $3600. That was in 1984 though, so it would be more like 9-10,000 today. My dad co-signed the loan, that was the extent of the help, I financed $3000 for 30 months and had a car payment of 135 a month.
We went golfing every weekend. Once a month he would say lets take the Magnum. On the way back from golf he say he needed a drink and to stop at a gas station. When we pulled in he would say hit the pump and filler up, he was buying. That was the only other help I got. Oh he'd buy the drinks too.
Don't buy it. My first car was a 82 honda civic and i'm glad it was that and not my second car (84 Z28 5.0L). Because i beat the hell out of it being 16 year old. I would recomend an SRT4. They are fast, cheap, and a 5 speed so you can learn to drive a stick, so when you do buy a GTO you can pick which tranny you like (and can drive). I loved my SRT4!! They claimed 5.5 to 60 and 14.0 in the quarter. Not bad for a turbo 4. Good Luck.
Hey I don't wanna be a **** or anything, but can someone address at least a couple of the questions I asked in my first post? I just want some answers and figured that posting a thread would be my best bet. Please guys haha.
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Are these street legal versions any better than say mid pipe headers? A mustang website states that "If you need catalytic converters for a lenient emissions county, you can get by with mid length headers and high flow catalytic converters." Are these almost as good as long pipes, or is there no point in getting them? I'm assuming that generally it is a good idea to get new headers with a new exhaust system, am I right? Also, a muffler is just what gives certain cars a different exhaust sound, right? I.e. Fart Cans.
I really want to bite the bullet, I just need to save up a little more for a down payment. 
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