Quick ! someone sell me on these GTO's

fittrjoe · 11-15-2012, 06:57 PM

Hello again all . Im going to look at an 06 m6 CGM with 2060 miles on it this saturday . I have driven 2 of these cars now , an A4 with 50,000 miles and an M6 with 37,000 miles. After reading on this forum for 2 weeks now Im starting to get COLD FEET. Seems like the OEM suspension on these cars are definitly crap. I really like the look , and the LS2 is a beast and sounds great . Can anyone chime in with some Positive qualitys of the car...? Im trying real hard to talk myself into this thing...should I just figure on all new suspension parts? , I love a great handling car and currently drive a Porsche

HP11 · 11-16-2012, 07:03 AM

Not trying to be blunt; just factual: If you're getting cold feet from reading about these cars and you need to be 'talked into' buying one after having driven 2 of them buy something else.......

smitty2919 · 11-16-2012, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by HP11

Not trying to be blunt; just factual: If you're getting cold feet from reading about these cars and you need to be 'talked into' buying one after having driven 2 of them buy something else.......

I agree.

KIA FTW.

You have to pay to play with these cars. I have had my ups and downs fixing mine up due to the typical GTO quirks but it has been rewarding.

HP11 · 11-16-2012, 09:33 AM

Someone would have to talk me into buying a KIA and it would take a salesman the likes of which I've not yet seen in my 62+ years. Just sayin'.....

smitty2919 · 11-16-2012, 09:53 AM

FWIW...I was hesitant as well coming from a 03 Mach 1 with zero issues and a car with no DS/BCM/rear spring/strut mount/RR bushing issues.

But I found mine at a good price so I sold the Mach and got the GTO. Rides 10X better and makes a fun highway bruiser/cruiser. if you need a shop to do any and all work...this car can get expensive for you.

I have done myself:
1 pc driveshaft install
Strut mount/RR bushing (alignment done by tire shop)
MGW install
Clutch install
rear spring install

I saved myself ~$500 for the clutch install alone...

ViperT4 · 11-16-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty2919

I agree.

KIA FTW.

You have to pay to play with these cars. I have had my ups and downs fixing mine up due to the typical GTO quirks but it has been rewarding.

Yeah, tell the guy who drives a Porsche that he has to pay to play to drive or Goat. Or that he should get a Kia. Nice.

I do agree that if it you have to convince yourself to get one you probably shouldn't Or just get one that's already had suspension work done to it. There's plenty over on the other forum.

Or keep the Porsche, cause as much as I love my Goat I don't think I'd ever say the Porsche was less of a car. Wanna trade?

smitty2919 · 11-16-2012, 02:33 PM

I didn't read that far to see he owns a Porche...

Unless it's a higher version than the base Porche...I would drop it. GTO will be a completely different beast...you will actually have torque.

Porche is more of a high revving road course car...GTO american V8 will be a "torquey" car with a good grunt behind it. If I ever see a Porche I love to screw with them.

But again, I don't know why you need help making a decision after driving two cars already. Especially with low miles....those 2 cars as as close to brand new as you will get. Most test drive a lot of cars to see how they fair with varying miles on them.

Want more help? Go find a GTO with full exhaust, cam and a tune then let us know how you like it

What kind of Porche do you have now?

GTO JUDGE · 11-17-2012, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fittrjoe

Hello again all . Im going to look at an 06 m6 CGM with 2060 miles on it this saturday . I have driven 2 of these cars now , an A4 with 50,000 miles and an M6 with 37,000 miles. After reading on this forum for 2 weeks now Im starting to get COLD FEET. Seems like the OEM suspension on these cars are definitly crap. I really like the look , and the LS2 is a beast and sounds great . Can anyone chime in with some Positive qualitys of the car...? Im trying real hard to talk myself into this thing...should I just figure on all new suspension parts? , I love a great handling car and currently drive a Porsche

You are buying into a misconception on this car. This car is a normal everyday STREET car. NOT a race car. Its not designed to take to the track. This car is VERY apt to taking it to the limit for HIGHWAY normal STREET driving.

The suspension? Weak rear springs, poor design from factory result: advanced wear out of tires. Squashed strut bushings? Result from POOR shipping procedures. Over tightening of the front end caused bushings to squash which caused strut rub. HUMAN error not car error. Could this have been better designed? YES. Did every car experience this NO. 43K on mine its perfect. The OEM suspension overall is FINE from factory for normal to slightly aggressive street driving, its NOT fine for abuse or racing. Its not designed to take out and obstacle course it cornering it to its limits.

TOO many people assume because it has 400 HP / TQ you can take it out and beat the living hell out of it with no worries the way its set up from factory. WRONG! These guys who push this car beyond its intended limits are the ones writing on here and other forums bashing the car because it fails here and there and they now have to buy beefed up parts to drive the car the way it was NOT intended. These are the guys that take it to the track OEM, road race it.... and beat it do death.

I've been reading the same complaints for 7 years now. This car is NOT set up to drive the way many assume it is. Once those people invest in the correct set up they find this car on the track is a beast.

Were there issues from factory on poor design and such? YES, just like any other car. My 2005 is holding up just fine. I know others who's GTOS are too. I take it to the limit it was designed for. If I abuse it and exceed the intended use limits then I am in for adding $$ to repair or upgrade. The one common denominator from every gripe is.... PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW this car's limitations. They drive the car applying their personal limitations.

Many of you are buying these things 2-3 owners... YOU are getting the results of those guys beating the pi$$ out of them then dump them. Instead of blaming the morons who abuse them you blame the car.

Want a car you can beat to death from the git go? Buy a vet, a viper, or any-other car like that designed to beat from the box. Expect to shell out the $$ for this.

For the most part.... it ain't the car, its the owners.

I have been and others too. cautioning anyone from buying a used GTO unless you know the previous owner, history of the car and do a full research on it. I have been personally helping a friend find the right one. So far I have helped him avoid 3 that appeared to be great but upon my investigating them just by reading on them they are dogs or dumped ones.

Again DO NOT buy one of these if you are uncertain. DO NOT buy one unless you take with you someone versed on this car. DO NOT rely on a salesman.. they are clueless on this car. This car is a BUYER BEWARE. It aint the car, its the previous owners abuse that most likely is to blame for the "POS" you just bought or a "POS" car from factory.

RED FLAG: Heavy modded car, tuned and upgraded. The car was used hard. Many on here complain they purchased GTO with a locked tune. It ain't running right and they have no idea who tuned it or what was done.... they drove it off the dealers lot cause its a monster..... Now, they find it was not what they thought.... cannot unlock the tune, now what? 3-400 for a PCM... we've seen it here. Heavily modded car= Potential major $$ outgo. Stay away...Unless you know the owner, the history. Don't be the next to write for help saying this POS is gunna cost me $$$. Uncertain? Just walk away.

svede1212 · 11-17-2012, 07:26 AM

So glad I bought new. . . I know the jerk who beat on it!

GTO JUDGE · 11-17-2012, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by svede1212

So glad I bought new. . . I know the jerk who beat on it!

LMAOOOOO. me too....