Procharger, Magnacharger, Vortec and STS build their systems to be bolted on a stock car without anyother modifications to the car in mind. These systems are not ment to destroy your car, because they would be out of busness if they did. You can destroy your car with stock power if it is abused. Alot of people suggest, that you get LT headers, upgrade your drivetrain, suspension, all that stuff is not nessary. The bare minimum is a clutch the stock clutch sux point blank. When companies design S/C systems they design them on bone stock cars.
Now for reliablity, utilizing the extra power effectively and flexablity you would want to upgrade all that other stuff because people like me want more and thats when you move out of the stock stuff able to handle the abuse of more power.
Procharger is a pretty good system, it make decent top end power out of the box. I would talk to someone with a Procharger set up and ask questions.
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2004 QS/M12 w/mods
If its not BLOWN it SUCKS!
i appreciate it . thank you. I think ill do that. I was talking to a guy in maryland performance and he said i could get up to 500 with a procharger and new injectors and dynoed and a few little details . But only certain amount of boost . if i go any high then lets say 8 i could do more wear and tear to the car . And or get better parts to support that power
Procharger, Magnacharger, Vortec and STS build their systems to be bolted on a stock car without anyother modifications to the car in mind. These systems are not ment to destroy your car, because they would be out of busness if they did. You can destroy your car with stock power if it is abused. Alot of people suggest, that you get LT headers, upgrade your drivetrain, suspension, all that stuff is not nessary. The bare minimum is a clutch the stock clutch sux point blank. When companies design S/C systems they design them on bone stock cars.
Now for reliablity, utilizing the extra power effectively and flexablity you would want to upgrade all that other stuff because people like me want more and thats when you move out of the stock stuff able to handle the abuse of more power.
Procharger is a pretty good system, it make decent top end power out of the box. I would talk to someone with a Procharger set up and ask questions.
what you think about the STS turbo systems??? I know that the only real upgrade needed is a clutch but why do they have a disclaimer on their website saying new pistons and such and a better built bottom end is needed?? is that just to cover themselves?
what you think about the STS turbo systems??? I know that the only real upgrade needed is a clutch but why do they have a disclaimer on their website saying new pistons and such and a better built bottom end is needed?? is that just to cover themselves?
Haven't been to the STS site in a long time. Don't remember seeing that disclaimer. I don't think you would need to forge the bottom end for the base kit, many people have the STS kit installed without touching the engine, also watching TV shows do not mention nothing about that. A rear mounted turbo is not my cup of tea being rear mounted and low to the elements is a turn off for me. Its the only CARB legal turbo kit available to us in California. Squires Turbo Systems - Benefits of STS Systems
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2004 QS/M12 w/mods
If its not BLOWN it SUCKS!
Procharger, Magnacharger, Vortec and STS build their systems to be bolted on a stock car without anyother modifications to the car in mind. These systems are not ment to destroy your car, because they would be out of busness if they did. You can destroy your car with stock power if it is abused. Alot of people suggest, that you get LT headers, upgrade your drivetrain, suspension, all that stuff is not nessary. The bare minimum is a clutch the stock clutch sux point blank. When companies design S/C systems they design them on bone stock cars.
Now for reliablity, utilizing the extra power effectively and flexablity you would want to upgrade all that other stuff because people like me want more and thats when you move out of the stock stuff able to handle the abuse of more power.
Procharger is a pretty good system, it make decent top end power out of the box. I would talk to someone with a Procharger set up and ask questions.
Is a rear mounted turbo better then a reg turbo. And is it really true that twin turbo's are cheaper then lets say a procharger?. And in your opinion what do you think is better.
But i personally like the sound of a procharger for staters
Is a rear mounted turbo better then a reg turbo. And is it really true that twin turbo's are cheaper then lets say a procharger?. And in your opinion what do you think is better.
But i personally like the sound of a procharger for staters
I'm not going to speak on any of those systems because I have no experiance with them. Sorry, but I don't want to steer you or anybody else in the wrong direction.
But...I would go Procharger, that was one of my choices, why big top end numbers. I went with Magnacharger because the flat torque, and street manners.
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2004 QS/M12 w/mods
If its not BLOWN it SUCKS!
Haven't been to the STS site in a long time. Don't remember seeing that disclaimer. I don't think you would need to forge the bottom end for the base kit, many people have the STS kit installed without touching the engine, also watching TV shows do not mention nothing about that. A rear mounted turbo is not my cup of tea being rear mounted and low to the elements is a turn off for me. Its the only CARB legal turbo kit available to us in California. Squires Turbo Systems - Benefits of STS Systems
hmm im not sure where I saw that..... maybe it was prochargers site im not sure.... but I do remember seeing something like that disclaimer. Anyway I guess with the base kit you wont need to do anything to the motor. I think they said 7 psi was safe. Im looking into the turbos and such. Mostly I would like the safest and easiest to install.
I'm not going to speak on any of those systems because I have no experiance with them. Sorry, but I don't want to steer you or anybody else in the wrong direction.
But...I would go Procharger, that was one of my choices, why big top end numbers. I went with Magnacharger because the flat torque, and street manners.
I'm still thinking on which way i should go. With either twin turbo or procharger. I just cant decide. But im guess the procharger is easy to install but more expensive . And twin turbo's are cheaper but alittle more detail to install. Do I have the right?
.....I went with Magnacharger because the flat torque, and street manners.
Agreed,
OP, Maggie is legal in California. U might not care now since you don't live here, but if u were to sell ur car or part it out then ur options are not so limited.
I heard that while procharger offers more top end power, it has more up keep issues.
With the Maggie it's really like a "fire & forget" system.
It's nice to have a flat power band that gives u a little better MPG during cruising and it ain't going to break while ur racing.
the last thing u need is to fuel some mustang, import notion that LSx is a ****ty powerplant........
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