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Old 05-16-2005, 02:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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I love the way my 04 GTO accelerates, its great and is faster than most cars on the road.
But it does not have that insane thrust of my Z06 when it winds up. Whenever I take friend for a ride in both cars, I do the GTO first because it seems slow after a trip in the Z, which is stock but for a Blackwing filter and GHL catback. A Z51 equiped C6 is only slightly slower than a C5 Z06.

I didn't buy the GTO to compete with the Z06. It's a DD that happens to be fast, handles well, rides smoothly, and is well built.

I understand that you can mod a GTO enough to compete with a Z06 and thats great for those who want to do it. I just prefer to keep the goat as a touring type car.
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Old 05-16-2005, 07:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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In SCCA T1 circles, we see a lot of dyno results (our engine has to remain stock). I've seen enough to have confidence that GM makes a good motor with little variance, maybe plus/minus a couple percent at most. Even if yours is at the high end and the Vette is at the low end, the GTO Vette will still out accelerate the GTO given the weight difference.

My suspicion is that there are two factors that make the C6 seem not as fast as you would've thought:
- Gearing. From my understanding, the GTO has the lower Z06 gearing. I believe, but am not sure, that the C6 vette has taller gears. If I'm correct, the Vette will be hurt from a rolling start at the same speed in the same gear by the taller gearing.
- Seat of the pants calibration. It is probably harder than you think to compare one car to another by seat of the pants. I know I can't do it very well. My old 94 RX-7 "felt" faster, especially when up on the boost, than the Z06 does to me, but the Z06 will walk all over a stock 3rd gen RX-7. Different cars just feel different.
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The Vette's have a different suspension setup too. There is less roll, dipping and squatting. When you aren't moving around/ jostled around you feel like things are slower than if you are being tossed about. I drove a 99 GTS Viper that felt hella quick (it is) but a 747 sure as heck beats that car but doesn't "feel" like it does. Just a matter of perception and motion.
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I agree with most everything everyone has said so far.

After several days to think about it...

I'm just thrilled the cars are "close enough it is hard to tell the difference"




The C6 z06 will be an untouchable monster to which none can compare.

of course.. that nice 7.0 ltr fits in a GTO too.

I love having options.
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Was the C6 you drove an automatic? If so, it may not have had the optional 3:15 rear end, and instead was saddled with 2:72's back there. Great for mileage but no Vette should leave the factory with them.
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FYI 05 GTO Curb Weight is 3725lbs.
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The C6 z06 will be an untouchable monster to which none can compare.

of course.. that nice 7.0 ltr fits in a GTO too.
I'm trying not to read anything about that car. There is definitely not room in the budget for one of those and a track play toy...
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Wait... someone actually thought their gto weighed 4400 lbs?
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