Tulsa F. Chapter

I'm new to the forum, and looking to see if anybody else has seen this.

I purchased a new manual shift, 2006 GTO and at 3200 miles, and 6 weeks later, I had a funny sound one day when I started it up. I drove it directly to the dealer about 5 miles away.

After them having it for 2 weeks, they came back and said the sound was the lifters being screwed because of the fact there was NO OIL in the car.

A battle ensued an and the end result was a "GM Engineer" coming back and saying it was my fault, because I didn't check the oil at every gas up like it says in the manual, so we're not going to warranty this. According to them, there was blow by around the pistons, and that is how the oil disappeared. They blamed this on me not knowing how to drive a stick shift, even though I've been driving a stick shift since I was 12 years old. I talked to several mechanics and they all said that if several quarts of oil disappeared by blow by in 6 weeks, there was something wrong with the engine. Not a single one said they have ever heard of such a thing, and two of them specialize in LS1/LS2 engines.

Legal proceedings are pressing forward, but I thought I would see if anyone on this forum have heard of such a thing.


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AlanSr

I have some experience and knowledge dealing with engines. And an engine does not just "lose" all of it's oil.
Either it was burning it up; but you should have smelled something.
Or you had a pretty bad leak to lose all of it in 2 weeks.

Either way your oil light should have been on and the performance should have fallen way off.

Just my .2C.

AlanSr

Also if your engine was burning it, your stick should be stained with burned oil.

Rukee

Welcome to the forums.
Had you ever checked it? Maybe is was emtey when you picked up the car? Wouldn`t be the first time I herd of a place not putting the oil back in after an oil change.

GTO JUDGE

Welcome to the Forum

I am sure your attorney will do this, but check the new vehicle checklist the dealer should have filled out verifying all is in order before it was sold to you. See if the oil level was checked.

Your check oil light never came on? Service engine light never came on?
Your car didn't have sufficient oil in it to begin with IMO.

You are not the only one to report oil consumption issues.

Good Luck

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No engine lights or warnings. No smell or smoke.

No, I never checked it. Looking back, I know I should have right when I got home with the car, but when you buy a car with 40 miles on it, that's not the first thing you think to do. (At least before this happened.) I figured buying a GTO in the 21st century, oil in the car would be a no brainer.

Thanks for the comments, all opinions welcome.

Ninjured

6 quarts in 3200 miles is extreme

Did they inform you that manual shift GTO's (even though auto's have the same motor) may have an oil consumption problem?
Did they give you a copy of the letter from GM?
How is that they took two weeks to figure out there was no oil in it?
for the letter--> LS1GTO.com Forums - Oil Consumption Letter from GM

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Welcome aboard Man. I do wish your introduction was under more pleasant circumstances to say the least!!!

I tend to agree with Rukee, I mean how could you not notice that kind of oil loss? You would have seen it or smelled it for sure. Like the old song says “bring lawyers, guns & money” Best of luck and keep us posted…

BTW – A while back my sister went to Jiffy “no oil in your engine” lube and they did every thing correctly, except they only hand tightened the drain plug, forgot to torque it down. A few miles from home her engine froze, end of story. They were caught and did not put up a fight, never the less a pain in the As* to deal with… Point is they may have just overlooked one of the aspects of the life blood of the car, as did the brain child’s at Jiffy…

Tulsa F. Chapter

I purchased the car in July 2006, I did receive the letter probably a year later.

They came back the next day and said the lifters were bad, but then took another 4 days to tell me there was no oil in the car. Then another week and a half to decide that it was my fault, and that GM would not warranty it.

I am going to purchase a new motor ASAP, can you guys tell me about my options when it comes to the LS2 and LS3?

Where would be the best place to look as far as price?

Thanks again.

fergyflyer

I'm not understanding why you are bringing this up now if it happened 2 years ago.

Not to be devils advocate, but you should have been checking the oil all along. To go 3200 miles without changing the initial oil or never checking it is some negligence on your part. I can understand some of GM's postion that you bear responsibility for part or all of the damage.

Also if it had no oil in it, Zero quarts and you ran it for 5 miles, the noise must have been aweful. I say you bear some responsibility for driving it with it making the noises. Plus if it was a slow leak you were driving with 1 or 2 quarts for a period of time and the engine wouldn't have been functioning properly at that point and would have been making noises. Why didn't you check it at that point, or get it back to the dealer then?

If you had the proper amount of oil in it, or at least 3 or 4 quarts till the day you started it with no oil, I can understand you not realizing there was something wrong. But the question begs to be asked, what happened to the 3 - 6 quarts that were in the engine???

Is there someone that might have sabotaged your car??? If that's the case, then GM shouldn't be at fault, you should be contacting your insurance company.