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Old 11-18-2007, 11:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Turbo vs. Supercharger

There seem to be many kits out there for boosting our goats. I need some feedback from people about what they think!

I know the supercharger will help down low and the turbo up high.... but i think i have it down between the Magnacharger supercharger kit and the STS turbo kit. Which one will be the best bang for buck? And im not wanting to go all out, just wanting around 550 whp.
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Old 11-18-2007, 11:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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S/C or Turbo?

I've had both - turbocharged on my vette and now a Magnacharger on my LS2. Love the low end torque of the SC. Had mine done at LPE and it drives effortless - where you need the power on the street, in the lower rpm areas. Also super easy to tune and plumb.
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Which one feels faster to you? i mean even though to vette is a faster car. But how much hp you think the supercharger is putting down?
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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I've had both - turbocharged on my vette and now a Magnacharger on my LS2. Love the low end torque of the SC. Had mine done at LPE and it drives effortless - where you need the power on the street, in the lower rpm areas. Also super easy to tune and plumb.
kcg, Where do you take the GTO for Mods and tunes here in the Bay?

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from what i have heard the sts turbo kit isn't too great quality wise. so i'd go maggie sc. look into aps or a local shop that will fab you up a turbo kit. turbo you don't have the constant whine as you would with a s/c and you'd probably put down the same amount of power with turbo as you would s/c but with less low end due to the spooling of the turbo. alot of that will depend on turbo size both turbine and housing sizes.
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I know the supercharger will help down low and the turbo up high...

This statement is annoying. Everytime you hear turbo vs supercharger this is what they say. A S/C can get you more high end than a turbo. Centrifugals build boost rapidly the more RPM your motor is spinning. Roots will give you more boost down low. A twin screw would be the best way to go getting mostly mid range. A turbo can get you anything in between. Like koman said, its how you size your turbo. Big turbo means big spool up time means when it finally does spool up in the higher rpm's its crazy. Small turbo means quick spool up in lower rpm's and not as much peak HP. Here's a good writeup on turbos:

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...o_tech101.html
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Aside from the lower power/torque gain, how would you compare going with something like an SLP490 performance pac over turbo/sc. I'm guessing the hp/torque curve for the SLP490 would not be as flat as turbo/sc but then you are not paying any weight penalty so handling might be a bit better.

Speaking of weight penalty (for handling -- not for acceleration), how does a Maggie SC compare with an APS TT? Seems to me that that the TT with intercooler is going to add a lot of weight to the nose. Does this weight even matter from a handling point of view, or is it negligible?

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Speaking of weight penalty (for handling -- not for acceleration), how does a Maggie SC compare with an APS TT? Seems to me that that the TT with intercooler is going to add a lot of weight to the nose. Does this weight even matter from a handling point of view, or is it negligible?

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to keep weight off the nose look at a rear mount turbo. many of the weight issues will depend on your suspension set up. a properly weighted and sprung car will feel far better than a genericly sprung car. if you can get rid of body roll i don't see how the extra weight would hurt the car although i would also suggest looking into lightening when/where you can.
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Well if what i said is to annoying for you please dont write anything in my posts anymore. Do us both a favor.

And with what i said the supercharger i was gona go with helps alot more down low and the sts kit doesnt even hit max boost until about 3800 rpms, so therefore that is high end. And those were the two i had picked between.

Thanks everyone else for the input.
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to keep weight off the nose look at a rear mount turbo. many of the weight issues will depend on your suspension set up. a properly weighted and sprung car will feel far better than a genericly sprung car. if you can get rid of body roll i don't see how the extra weight would hurt the car although i would also suggest looking into lightening when/where you can.
Thanks Koman:

I've seen pictures of the rear-mounted STS turbos, that would be a great way to balance out the weight of the front. Do you know if the rear-mount turbos still need an inter-cooler? I feel like that is going to be the heaviest part of the system.

Ideally, I want to tighten up my suspension with a Pedders Street II/Serious Street kit. My ultimate goal is to have a goat that handles as well as it accelerates

I hear what you are saying about body roll. As I understand it weight towards the front/back of the car is bad as it adds a lot to your "rotational inertia" and makes it harder for the car to rotate quickly about its center of gravity (without using throttle oversteer . The closer the weight is to your car's center of gravity the quicker it will pivot around this point. That's one of the reasons mid-engine cars have such great cornering capability.

Don't get me wrong, I love my Goat and would/will happily drive it stock for a while yet. But there's always the temptation to go that one step better

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