Confused about this forum.

[dms]

I have not been active in this forum mostly due to the lack of participation it has. I recieved an email stating that this forum has been updated. So I thought I would visit it again.

I must admit, I am alittle dissapointed. Not bragging, but I think I am one of the most knowlegable guys out there on GTO suspension issues. Being a new car dealer, understanding the GTO, and klnowing the significant amount of failures of the GTO OEM suspension, made me go and seek out and become the first pedders distirbutor in the nation. But looking at this section, I really do not see a lot of discussion about suspension concerns. I do not participate in the "other" larger GTO forum to sell Pedders. But I participate in the forums to help GTO owners fix multiple problems with the GTO. This forum does not seem to be very active in suspension issues. Knowing the car like I do, this section of the forum should be riddled with discussion. Why is it that it is not?

mike
dms

[TR GTO]

If the questions were being asked, there would be topics for discussion for you to answer questions. Some people might not even realize the suspension problems inherent to the GTO. I would say it wouldn't be a bad idea to work up a thread of suspension information and recommendations that could be used as a sticky for the forum. I've got to say I haven't posted in a long time on here, but I get bored and check back from time to time.

[dms]

Originally Posted by TR GTO

If the questions were being asked, there would be topics for discussion for you to answer questions. Some people might not even realize the suspension problems inherent to the GTO. I would say it wouldn't be a bad idea to work up a thread of suspension information and recommendations that could be used as a sticky for the forum. I've got to say I haven't posted in a long time on here, but I get bored and check back from time to time.

There are lots of issues of abnormal tire wear front and rea, ride height issues, tire cupping, strut rub and the list goes on. there are not issues that I havestarted, but they are issues that there are known solutions for. Why would we not see the discussion of this on this sight? that is what I was trying to say

mike
dms

[Jeffs386]

I haven't had any suspension issues with the car

[GTOJon]

I am not one to claim much knowledge at all in regards to the GTO suspension. Either I'm oblivious to issues with the GTO (or my car), but I didn't even replace my STOCK tires until 40k. I am aware of the 'potential issues' (such as tire wear, strut rub - I know nothing of the 'riding height' problem that you mentioned), but I guess it does not involve ALL GTO's. Correct me if I am wrong, please.

[GM4life]

Originally Posted by dms

I have not been active in this forum mostly due to the lack of participation it has. I recieved an email stating that this forum has been updated. So I thought I would visit it again.

I must admit, I am alittle dissapointed. Not bragging, but I think I am one of the most knowlegable guys out there on GTO suspension issues. Being a new car dealer, understanding the GTO, and klnowing the significant amount of failures of the GTO OEM suspension, made me go and seek out and become the first pedders distirbutor in the nation. But looking at this section, I really do not see a lot of discussion about suspension concerns. I do not participate in the "other" larger GTO forum to sell Pedders. But I participate in the forums to help GTO owners fix multiple problems with the GTO. This forum does not seem to be very active in suspension issues. Knowing the car like I do, this section of the forum should be riddled with discussion. Why is it that it is not?

mike
dms

Mike, I know that you're the one to come to when I have suspension issues. I've PM'ed you in the past on the other forum for advice I trust your knowlage. The thing is I hear so many conflicting responses from other members(not on this forum) on the suspension issues with this car its not even funny. So maybe you can come up with a list of problems and solutions and ask the mods to make it a sticky. Because when I have to look for a solution to the problem to get a better grasp I have to sift through alot of bull just to find the answer I want. Also reading through your post it sounds like the GTO should have problems with the suspension. From what I've gathered this was cause by the car being straped down on a boat for months, and wider than Aus tire size correct me if I'm wrong. Also I think you said in the past was to prevent some of these problems was to make sure that the tire pressure was in limits, have the alignment checked, and if the alignment can't be fixed it is caused by failed bushings. It sounds like GM, NHTSA brushed the problem off about the strut rub problems why is that? Is it because it happen to a small percentage and/or money/politics?
I currently don't have suspension problems, but I do want the car to handle better but keep the same ride quality. Also when I bought the car I had the front suspension alignment checked because I was not confterble with the tire so close to the strut, they said it was fine.

Thanks for your concern Mike.

[Wing_Nut]

Originally Posted by dms

I have not been active in this forum mostly due to the lack of participation it has. I recieved an email stating that this forum has been updated. So I thought I would visit it again.

I must admit, I am alittle dissapointed. Not bragging, but I think I am one of the most knowlegable guys out there on GTO suspension issues. Being a new car dealer, understanding the GTO, and klnowing the significant amount of failures of the GTO OEM suspension, made me go and seek out and become the first pedders distirbutor in the nation. But looking at this section, I really do not see a lot of discussion about suspension concerns. I do not participate in the "other" larger GTO forum to sell Pedders. But I participate in the forums to help GTO owners fix multiple problems with the GTO. This forum does not seem to be very active in suspension issues. Knowing the car like I do, this section of the forum should be riddled with discussion. Why is it that it is not?

mike
dms

You are searching the sands of the Sahara (not the casino) for water my friend.

I've been hanging around since March 05 and suspension almost never comes up with the exception of the strut rub problem.

Most here are focused on creating HP & TQ rather than managing application of same towards forward motion of their car. Now if you had an answer for wheel hop at the drag strip, you could become a god, or at least a demi-god on this forum.

Here are the hot topics in no particular order

• Dyno Tune
• Supercharger / Turbocharger
• Headers
• Cold Air Intake
• RWHP
• Selling Price
• Ricer kills on public roads
• Mustang kills on public roads
• I totalled my GTO today on public roads
• What wax should I use
• What tires should I buy
• Ugly F-body paint jobs
• Ugly aftermarket wheels
• Gas prices

We also waste an appropriate amount of time solving the worlds social, economic, and political problems.

Where were you when my 05 had the cupping issue? I felt like Fred Flintstone. Ruined all four OEM tires.

[6QTS11OZ]

With me, I already know all about the problems with the GTO suspension so there really isn't a need for me to discuss it. When I have the cash I'm going to invest in one of your Pedders package. And honestly, your products are not necessarily inexpensive. I currently have Pedders "0" drop rear drag springs as well as drag bags. I don't have strut rub issues because I have aftermarket wheels with a 40 mm offset. And even with lower profile tires (235/35 fronts, 275/30 rears) I have never had any abnormal tire wear. Remember that not everyone have had problems their suspension. Some don't care to change their suspension because they are pleased with the current comfortable ride that the stock suspension provides. Plus I really don't NEED to change my suspension but if you knew me, you'd know that I am always looking to upgrade stock components if a better product is available no matter how much that product costs. That's why I'm $15K in to appearance and performance upgrades at this moment. Like gm4life said, provide us with information that you may have that will educate some members of the issues, concerns, fixes, etc. that will make them aware of something they may not know about. Include a Q & A section as well as a section describing the affects of your available individual components and complete packages. I am all for making that a sticky if you are willing to provide the information.

[GTO JUDGE]

Perhaps you should monitor this section more often. If and when members have questions regarding suspensions, your knowledge and input would be greatly appreciated. Members offer assistance to the best of their knowledge. Most are limited on their knowledge however. Your insight to suspension issues would be valuable to those who seek answers to questions. If you are monitoring this site on a regular basis and others see your input to questions asked, perhaps more members would be inclined to post questions.

If you would list the issues related to the suspension with reasons why and corrective action, it will be made a sticky for all to view.

[Rukee]

Yea, start a thread with known issues and the corrective upgrades and results.
Some people might not even know they have an issue unless you tell them how much better it can be.