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Old 02-20-2006, 01:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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F#cking B&M Pile of Crap

I've had that damned thing on off my car four times already....the last time to put in the latest / greatest install revision (new gasket and hardware) from B&M.

I've noticed that the shifts have been getting balky lately-- again. Yesterday I jacked the Holden up to change the oil and, lo and behold, there's tranny fluid all over the bottom of the damned car.

I had my youngest climb into the car while I had my hand on the shifter plate and told him to yank fore and on the shifter-- sure as hell the base plate moves ever so slightly.

I tried to crank the allens down but they are frikken tight.

Before you B&M fanbois post about how your install is trouble free, keep in mind that mine hase been on the car for about 40k hard miles now-- more miles than you probably have on your car.

It's a f#cked up, crappy assed design. Fact. I'm done with that PoS.

Now I'm hearing problems with the GMM, which was my next choice. Looks like I'll need to look into the Harrop now, unless the Hurst is ready for primetime soon.

Avoid this unit.
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Old 02-20-2006, 02:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Still having problems with that POS huh? Sorry to hear it. I'm ordering the GMM this week, what problems have you heard of?
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My brother just installed mine for me this past Saturday and reading this sure make me have confidence in the shifter
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don't mean to thread jack but what shifter options are there for the 6 speed?
I was only aware of the B&M
There is an abreviated companies shifter listed above but I don't know what it is.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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don't mean to thread jack but what shifter options are there for the 6 speed?
I was only aware of the B&M
There is an abreviated companies shifter listed above but I don't know what it is.
Thanks in advance for your help.
GMM is another company that makes a shifter for the M6, supposed to be alot better. Check out Speed Inc. they've got good prices on them!
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I've had that damned thing on off my car four times already....the last time to put in the latest / greatest install revision (new gasket and hardware) from B&M.

I've noticed that the shifts have been getting balky lately-- again. Yesterday I jacked the Holden up to change the oil and, lo and behold, there's tranny fluid all over the bottom of the damned car.

I had my youngest climb into the car while I had my hand on the shifter plate and told him to yank fore and on the shifter-- sure as hell the base plate moves ever so slightly.

I tried to crank the allens down but they are frikken tight.

Before you B&M fanbois post about how your install is trouble free, keep in mind that mine hase been on the car for about 40k hard miles now-- more miles than you probably have on your car.

It's a f#cked up, crappy assed design. Fact. I'm done with that PoS.

Now I'm hearing problems with the GMM, which was my next choice. Looks like I'll need to look into the Harrop now, unless the Hurst is ready for primetime soon.

Avoid this unit.
When I installed mine I noticed that it was already leaking tranny fluid
so I had to drop the tailhouse down and take off that plate. I personally
dont care for formed gaskets on trannys so I used permtex orange trans
sealer for a gasket. That was at 13k, now it has 20k on it and it still hasnt leaked, but I know it wasnt from the shifter but the ****ty gasket from GM.

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Avoid this unit.
Before your replacement shifter comes in, take the B&M unit out and apply a generous bead of RTV sealant to the bottom of the shifter plate.

By putting the RTV to that thin piece of metal around the top of the transmission -- the stuff gets smeared around when you put the shifter plate on -- which causes the seal to fail after a period of time.

Curious to know what's going with the GMM units, too.
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Before your replacement shifter comes in, take the B&M unit out and apply a generous bead of RTV sealant to the bottom of the shifter plate.

By putting the RTV to that thin piece of metal around the top of the transmission -- the stuff gets smeared around when you put the shifter plate on -- which causes the seal to fail after a period of time.

Curious to know what's going with the GMM units, too.
Makes no difference. I'm very familiar with laying beads of silicone after many years of working on boats and aircraft.

It's a piss-poor design, period.
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How long after the initial install that you started having probs?
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Makes no difference. I'm very familiar with laying beads of silicone after many years of working on boats and aircraft.

It's a piss-poor design, period.
I'm waiting for some Hurst feedback before I decide between it and the Harrop shifter. Had a B&M in my last car. Worked perfectly, that's until you tried to shift into 2nd and 4th with the revs up...just couldn't feel it lock into gear like it would normally.
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