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Old 05-13-2008, 10:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Which Short Throw Shifter??

Ok, so I'm torn about getting one. I've had short throws in every single car previously (all imports, except the Auto SUV) owned, and am looking at different units available for the GTO.

What are you guys/gals running? How do you like it, and how much were they?

So far I've seen and looked at....

Hurst
B&M
GMM RipShift
JHP (I thinkg they sell GMM but not sure)

Any feedback/advice is appreciated.
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I have rip and love it 100x better then the STD shifter
BTW they arent just a short shifter
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... i'm listening.... do tell me more...lol.
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There is also the Billet Pro to consider...

RallySportDirect.com - Pontiac GTO 6-Speed Billet Pro Series Short Shifter
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nice... but that one's twice the price of most competitors.... so the obvious question is whether it performs twice as good. I like that 2-3 straight shaft design.... but I'm more in 3-5 when tracking my car. I don't really do autocrosses, 1-3 gear, or drag race anymore.... usually stick to big tracks like Willow International and California Speedway where the slowest turn is taken at 50+ mph.

Also, I'm not really unhappy with the shifter as is. I've gotten used to the longer throws, and they seem to add to the muscle charm of the vehicle. Maybe it's a case of me selling myself on the GTO...lol.

Has anyone done just a bushing kit. I had one on my Subaru, and it was much more impressive in feel/feedback than the shortthrow.

BTW, thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. I'm sure they'll end up benefiting many others apart from myself on this forum.
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I'm running the Billet. Its night and day difference from the stocker. If your not aware, B&M now owns Hurst.

B&M aquires Hurst Shifters | Miscellaneous Blog & Discussions at Hot Rod Magazine

GMM and B&M were the first shirters for the Monaro. GMM was consistantly favored over the B&M by many. B&M seemed more difficult to install correctly as people had problems with stuff coming apart. The GMM doesn't have a real short throw and some complain about the hand coming close to or touching the radio. The GMM doesn't use a linkage, it goes direct to the tranny, probably a plus for positive feel, but a negative for noise. For a short shifting GMM, you need to add a Lou's Short Stick to it and by then you're in Billet territory price wise.

I don't know anything about the Hurst performance, but looking at the pics, I'm happy with the Billet. The springs in the Billet are stout. When I first installed, reverse almost required two hands. They loosen some, but my wife doesn't like to drive it cause its to stiff for her. I love it, the rubber feel is gone, shifting is like "click, click". Downside is some tranny noise under acceleration, but maybe I just need to move the stops on the shifter a touch.
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That was super informative. Thanks! It certainly helps to lift some of the fog from the contenders.

Out of curiousity, what is it about the Hurst shifter that's turning you towards the Billet?

Also, how long did the shifter install take?
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Some pic's for comaprison

I found pic's of the respective candidates. Thanks again for all the feedback so far, as it's been informative and to the point.

Here's the Billet... so far in the lead with a 2-1 poll. ($395 Rallysport Direct)



Then we have the GMM, so far only one supporter, but then again constituting a third of the votes, thus far. ($339-349 + $79 for street handle if req'd Shipped from JHP)



Though B&M and Hurst are now under same ownership, they do offer 2 different kits. Each seems to be different, under their own label.

B&M Shifter ($223.47 B&M Website, $179 on ebay from Atlantic Speed)



Hurst Shifter ($288 Speed unlimited)



And I also found a dark horse. Harrop Shifter, sold by JHP. ($220 shipped)

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Out of curiousity, what is it about the Hurst shifter that's turning you towards the Billet?
The Hurst didn't exist when I made my choice. If you mean by looking at the photo's, the solid base of the Billet just seems more substantial.

I haven't rowed through the gears with a Hurst before so pics and my 2 cents isn't worth anything.
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I hear you, and agree with what you're saying about the Billet just looking like a better unit. Did yours come with new shifter bushings in the kit?
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