Kilboy

I dont like either design... I think the GTO's were finally hitting there designing nich... I think GM should have simply began developement of the New GTO on the same platform just in the states to save on the cost...that should have been their design difference... no need to redevelope something that isn't broken...

How bout instead of spending all their money on an unnecessary redesign they pumped some money into advertisement to sell more units...once again just my .02

Justin

 

BARONGTO

I Saw This Concept Sketch Quite Some Time Ago So I Seriously Doubt That This Is The Latest!

Relax Guys!!!

I Am Sure After All The Negative Press About The Current Goat (with Which I Disagree By The Way, I Have An 05 Red/red 6 Sp) The 2008 Goat Will Be A Knockout!!

GM Paint Guy

I'm sure this has been posted before, but has anyone noticed the similairities of the 1999 Concept GTO and the 2006 Concept Camaro? (Sorry for the giant pic size on the Camaro)





GM & Lutz has already stated that, other than Cadillac, the designers are moving away from the "Cutting Edge" styling. Hopefully the GTO will be alot more distinct from any other GM pony/personal luxury car.

I've inquired with Lutz via email why they have not taken the Kappa platform (Solstice & Sky) and extended the platform to a 2+2 (like in the Nomad concept) place a slick body on it, and slam a V-8 in it (like the Mallet Solstic) and sell that as a Chevy III or a Pontiac Tempest in the interim. The Zeta Platform developement is still too far off, and they have already built a Kappa Stretch Platform once... the tooling is there?

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03xtreme

do you actually get a response from them?

because i don't understand being born gm... in all their infinite wisdom, why it is so time consuming to put a camaro body as presented this year onto the holden chassis.

i mean how hard is that? can't be that hard.... body panels are nothing compared to chassis electronics, etc.

Gosh just put the camaro body on the Goat with the same everything except the body and sell the thing.... they couldn't build them fast enough.

GM Paint Guy

(1) YES!... Bob Lutz is brilliant, he reads his e-mail daily, he started on of the first Corprate Blogs by a Fortune 500 VP that allows anyone to give anyfeedback... AND HE LISTENS! (Of course it helps that I have his Company e-mail address .) I sent something regarding the Aveo Extreme about 10 months ago, he didn't have the answers himself, but HE responded within 6 hours and forwarded the questions to his staff, he followed up with them a week later.... I got lot's of details a day later from the heads of Design and Marketing. Bob Lutz is "Da Man"!

(2)... Dang, I could write a 10 page disertation on this. Look at the Solstice/Sky/Cobalt... that was 95% computer degin and intergration...MOST car companies (BMW, FORD, MB, Toyota, Mitsu, Etc) still build in clay along with the computers. Believe me, the Zeta Platform is moving at a high rate of speed. In the past, new platform design & developement took 5+ years!..Solstice/Sky/Cobalt all were 18-24 months from Concept Intro.

Panels ARE harder that you think... The Hydroforming molds are Extremely expensive to manufacture and there is crash safety, increased passage protection standards, etc, etc, Yada, Yada, Yada. Remeber, these are COMPLETELY NEW Global Platforms that are being built to compete and beat the competition. GM has changed... and for the Rice Worshipers out there, the Japanese companies have just as many Quality problems & recalls... they just save them and slip them in during a regularly scheduled service visit, hiding them in the invoice with "CUSTOMER REQUESTED MAINT." when you don't even know about it.

"SMACK!" get off your soap box!..... opps, sorry

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03xtreme

imho

if gm wanted to put the camaro out next year they could.

by the time the camaro comes out, it will be out of date, it's practically behind the times as it is, the challenger will be out before it, i'm sure ford is going to do something with the mustang and we all now import companies change cars annually lol.

i'm so sick of mustangs though i can't stand it. oh that, camry's accords, civics and any acura you can think of.

speaking of new models, the equinox is the best vehicle in its class hands down, even superior to the "new" rav 4. gm hit the mark on that one.

whats the email addy?

GM Paint Guy

Hmmmmmmm... Mr. Lutz is internet savy, I wonder how long my
engineering career with GM would last if I posted his company E-mail on the WWW????

here's his BLOG: GM Fastlane BLOG

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Showgoat67

I dont really like that one i like the one that is production now i think they should give it a 66-67 look.

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CrazyAL

I couldn't read the article. I saw the motortrend URL come up and I just quickly closed it. I am on full and total boycott. I believe we established some time ago how much they SUCK. I'm sure there was something in there negative about the current GTO which we all love. Anyway, I'm just saying if motortrend had to depned on me to make money, they'd be SOL.

pab13

Im with TommyD on this one, it's ok but the interiors of the retro concepts is just taking it toooooooo far. I reckon the current GTO, has the benchmark for an interior going in any car.