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Old 07-06-2007, 10:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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News First Pontiac G8 Rolls Off Holden Assembly Line

First Pontiac G8 Rolls Off Holden Assembly Line


Happy times for American hoons. Number minus-one from a first-year batch of 30,000 Pontiac G8s just crawled out of its shell. That is, the first Pontiac G8 -- an engineering prototype not among the first production models -- rolled off a Holden assembly line in the South Australian town of Elizabeth.

Essentially, the G8 is a re-skinned Holden Commodore VE, which has collected reviews in several shades of awesome. To recap: A few months back, the General, spooked by the prospect of rising CAFE standards, said it had "pressed the pause button" on its rear-wheel-drive plans. Then, whoops, it pressed play again.

Back on track, the G8 is the first American domestic market vehicle built off GM's RWD platform known as Zeta. (The Camaro will likely be #2.) A nearly 400 horsepower (391 hp) 6.0-liter V8, along with and six-speed manual, will be standard fare on the GT model. Good on you, GM. – Jonny Lieberman

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While the L76 destined for the G8 GT doesn't appear terribly different from its Gen IV counterparts, it does incorporate quite a few changes (including variable cam-phasing, to allow it to make 362 hp on regular fuel).







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I want one. I hope GM does a better job at advertising the G8 than the GTO. It's got good reviews in Aus. so hopefully it does good here also.
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Ok, so I am guessing they meant 391 ft lbs of torque, not horsepower. While 361 hp isn't too shabby, I imagine with the displacement on demand it is going to be a PITA to mod. Is it a good guess that 361 is probably close to as good as it is going to get without lots and lots of money? I bet a tune would help that out a little, but I don't see it putting down anything like the LS2.
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With the VVT, most (if not all) internal mods will be out of the question. I'm guessing CAI, exhaust, and maybee a tune is about all you could do. I myself don't like the idea of a de-tuned 6.0., but being a Pontiac fan, I hope it sells.
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No VVT but variable cam phasing...is that the same thing???...however...it does say on regular fuel...not premium...
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No VVT but variable cam phasing...is that the same thing???...however...it does say on regular fuel...not premium...
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Good question. I found some info: http://www.delphi.com/manufacturers/...valvetrain/vcp http://www.norcal-cobras.com/GTM/gm-...nk/11_01_e.pdf
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With the VVT, most (if not all) internal mods will be out of the question. I'm guessing CAI, exhaust, and maybee a tune is about all you could do. I myself don't like the idea of a de-tuned 6.0., but being a Pontiac fan, I hope it sells.
It suppose to have Active Fuel Management. Maybe a tuner can modify the perameters.
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OHHHHHHHH that is nice, VERY nice..... IF it gets built >>>>"That is, the first Pontiac G8 -- an engineering prototype not among the first production models"

I think we all know Bob Lutz likes to collect concept pictures, and build things that aren't meant for consumers. This car would break up the boring G line.
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. I myself don't like the idea of a de-tuned 6.0., but being a Pontiac fan, I hope it sells.

Pontiac is reserving the LS2 for the next GTO/Firebird. Wasn't the G8's engine originally designed for trucks?
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That looks sweet. The pics look even better than the ones I'd seen before. I'm pretty sure this one is going to happen. I hope so at least. GTO Judge, have some faith and don't take it so personally. This is promising. I read one of the articles on this car and they talked of using the upscale senator model as a Buick. That'd be sweet. I haven't seen any talk of cost though. The GTO was about 34,000. I wonder what a larger higher tech version would be. They talked about it in gm high tech performance and talked about the possibility of a LS3 version. That'd be awesome.

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com..._g8/index.html

Check out this article. It talks about possibly being able to wring over 40 more horsepower from a tune and an upgrade to higher octane fuel. That'd be sweet.

And I think the engine was designed for cars. The L92 was designed for trucks. In that same magazine, they talk about the heads and intake combo that gets like 40 more horsepower. The heads are from the L92 and the intake is from the L76. The Australian engine.

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