No El Camino for you! Pontiac pickup will be named G8 ST - Page 2

cwbimp · 12-14-2007, 05:11 PM

it won t sell to expensive gm has the idea that they have a superior product look at ford a gt v8 mustang you can get for about 22k a new v8 gm car will run at least 32k

PDQ GTO · 12-14-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wing_Nut

Nope! Yet another ill conceived marketing move by Pointiaaack!

The G8 was an opportunity to create a real performance sedan with decent content and thereby move the brand a little bit upscale. Who knows, with a credible two seat roadster and a nice performance sedan in the showroom, people might actually begin to think of Pointiaaack as a performance brand.

But bringing back the El Camino / Ranchero clone from the dead will (IMHO) drag them right back into free-association with stereotypes as the mullet division of GM. Half car, half truck, all redneck. What's the purpose of a vehicle of this type? A rear drive car with poor traction? A (very) light truck with no cargo capacity? A styling statement? What are they saying? We got yer veeehickle mulletude!

I don't mean to be controversial.....I'm just saying. Eeeeeyuuuuch!

What's the market/demographics Ponitac is going after with the G8? I just don't get it

GTO JUDGE · 12-18-2007, 05:08 PM

I'm not feeling it..

I never was an El Camino, or Ranchero fan. With all that is in transition with the auto makers to appease the feds, I'd be surprised if this ever hits the streets.

dustyminpin · 12-19-2007, 04:32 PM

I like it. But, I had an '81 El Camino and am biased. I don't think it will sell well here though. 31,000 starting asking price is too high, I don't care if it had the LS7 in it, I don't think it'll be around too long.

G.T.O · 12-19-2007, 05:14 PM

I doubt it will be profitable for GM but it's a cool looking vehicle except for the color. I'll guess they'll sell slightly more of them/year than the GTO. I'd much prefer they would focus instead on offering ultra high performance sedan versions of all their present lineup. A 400 hp G6 AWD sedan would be nice.

TR GTO · 12-20-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyGoat

Am i the only that thinks it won't sell too well over here?

I don't either. Look at the Chevy SSR. It is cool as hell but far from practical. People want trucks and it's just not tall enough for truck guys I would think. I love the concept but I can tell you the types of vehicles I would buy are coupes, sedans, and possibly wagons.

STLGTO05A4 · 12-21-2007, 09:57 AM

I Love It !!, I have been waiting for them to release the UTE in the US. I have been a big fan of El Camino's and think it will sell here. Guys, Its a sport vehicle, not a 4 wheel drive truck, give it a break. Does anyone know what type of rear suspention it has? Leaf or Independent. I say bring it on! Oh, But I hate the name. How about naming it the "El Poncho"...LOL

GGTTOO · 12-30-2007, 07:30 PM

I think you guys may be alittle young then to suggest that this will not sell well here. The El Camino in it's day sold quite well. it fit the gap between those that were not really pick up guys but needed a bed to haul things.

If it turns out like the pic that was posted I think it will sell quite well. Especially if it has the same drivetrain as the G-* and the comforts that accompany the car.

JMHO

AA GTO SP · 12-31-2007, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GGTTOO

I think you guys may be alittle young then to suggest that this will not sell well here. The El Camino in it's day sold quite well. it fit the gap between those that were not really pick up guys but needed a bed to haul things.

If it turns out like the pic that was posted I think it will sell quite well. Especially if it has the same drivetrain as the G-* and the comforts that accompany the car.

JMHO

While I want you to be correct, I don't share your optimism. In a market where 4 and all wheel drive are prevalent, high powered rear drive seems to be becoming fast obsolete. We will have to see though.

Wing_Nut · 01-03-2008, 10:02 PM

Well, it's official. The latest edition of Motor Trend states that Pointiaaack has decided to test the resiliency of the brand once again. I think the GM marketing guys have a bet going to see if they can kill the G8 faster than the GTO. I think they can do it!

Pointiaaack has decided to bring the Holden Commodore to the US as the G8 sedan, the weird El Camino thingie, and a station wagon.

That should wipe all images of a performance brand from consumer's minds.

What exactly is the brand image GM is trying to create here? More Oldsmobile than Oldsmobile? The brand that stands for everything, anything. GM is making a lot of great product and some very good marketing moves these days. This is not one of them. This is a blatant attempt to squeeze every unit they can out of the new platform short term with no thought of the long term effect on the Pontiac brand. Must be a few of the old timers left lurking in the shadows at GM.

Chevy is supposed to be the cheap family transportation and light truck store.

GM's got truck based SUV's and crossovers out the wazoo. And minivans too.

Who the hell is buying station wagons and Subaru Brat clones? There's a reason these configurations rode the big black stripe into the light decades ago.

I don't get it!