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Old 06-17-2006, 06:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Black Magic wax...

Any thoughts on this wax? It is the top-rated wax by the latest Consumer Reports for clear-coat, and got the top rating for not creating haze. I'm going to wait a bit to do the whole car, but tried it to remove the adhesive residue from removing the $@#$&* sticker the dealer put on the trunk lid.

It took the adhesive off, and even removed the scuffs that the dealer put on from (obviously) wiping the area off to put the stickers in place. Plus, it smells like cherries.

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Old 06-18-2006, 01:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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I just bought some of this last week, and I plan to try it Sunday. I think CR said it was slightly abrasive, however.
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I don't know about that wax. But have you tried Meguiars Gold Class Clear Coat Paste Wax? This has to be the best I've ever used! It leaves the paint as smooth as glass and dosen't wash off very easy either like other waxes do. VERY good stuff ESP for us Torrid Red/Phantom Black owners cause it dosen't leave streaks. Also I have to recommend there Quick Detailer also very good stuff to remove those bug smacks & bird poop! JMO tho.
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I just bought some of this last week, and I plan to try it Sunday. I think CR said it was slightly abrasive, however.
Here's the full rating sheet. The only other mention of Black Magic was in the following section:

"When we tested 28 products, including 16 liquid waxes, 5 pastes, and 7 of the spray-on, wipe-off variety, we found that liquid waxes provide the best cleaning and protection. But contrary to conventional wisdom, in our tests they required more effort than paste waxes to apply and remove. As a group, liquids were the hardest to apply evenly and they took the most work to buff out. In addition, some left a powdery residue that had to be wiped off. Even the top-rated Black Magic Wet Shine Liquid Wax required an extra bit of buffing to eliminate any streaking. And our other best all-around choice, Turtle Wax Camauba Car Wax T-6, can cause slight scratching or hazing on newer dark-colored finishes.

Paste waxes were once the most common type of wax; now they are the least. They also were once the hardest to apply but new formulations are easier to spread. Pastes often come with a reusable applicator to spread the wax, a convenience that makes it easier to apply the wax neatly and keep it off glass or plastic surfaces. But some of those applicators must be moistened before use."

Let me know how it works out for you.

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I don't know about that wax. But have you tried Meguiars Gold Class Clear Coat Paste Wax? This has to be the best I've ever used! It leaves the paint as smooth as glass and dosen't wash off very easy either like other waxes do. VERY good stuff ESP for us Torrid Red/Phantom Black owners cause it dosen't leave streaks. Also I have to recommend there Quick Detailer also very good stuff to remove those bug smacks & bird poop! JMO tho.
No, I have not. I've used Nu-Finish liquid on all my cars for about the last 10 years, but I've also not owned a Black Goat either. Not that I dind't care about the other cars they just...well, you know what I mean. This one is special.

Thanks for the recommendation.

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A few weeks ago someone posted photos of their red GTO after using Mothers Reflections. I was throughly impressed by the shine. I have not been able to find it yet, but intend on using it next go around. This time I got two step Mothers cleaner/wax for buffers. It did ok, but was a lot of rubbing.
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I have been using Zaino Brothers for 5 years and it is the best I have ever used. Goes on and off easy in any weather condition.

Website is zainobros.com
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Looks like they missed a bunch of products in their test -- focusing on brands with higher name recognition, etc. Nothing wrong with that -- as space is limited.

Used Meguiar's three-stage for years -- then switched to Klasse All-In-One with occasional touch ups with Meguiar's #7 Show Glaze after talking to a guy who details Ferraris for a living. However, Klasse goes on so easy and works so well -- I just tossed the Show Glaze. Go ahead and try it.

I've seen a lot of guys use Zaino and swear by it. It's almost a cult-like following. Their products aren't that expensive -- but require a lot coats and a lot of effort. Plus you may have to mix or "cut" it for the best results for your car -- then wait around for it to dry before removing. Some guys even say "check out my car, I put 5 coats of Zaino on it." One guy who had a Vette went so far as to put 15 coats of a base product then 5 coats of a finishing product. Er, I've got better things to do with my time.

Again, I'm not trying to bash the stuff -- because I've seen some very good results. Then again, I get the same results, if not better, with one coat of Klasse.
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I have had very good luck with the Meguires Tech Wax. I usually don't buy stuff that seems too "flashy" because it is usually just some gimmick, but I actually tried it and liked it. I have also recently used the new Turtle Wax Ice and I wasn't too sure the first time, but after doing the wifes crossfire with it, it shines very nicely- even shines the black trim! Car was gleaming when done lol. Just doesn't seem to hold it's "slickness" for long, but water still beads ok on it. If I am doing more than just a quick wax (polishing, comounding, etc.)- I have used Wizards products for years. Started using it when I was painting at one body shop and just stuck with it. Their dual action compound is awesome for getting flaws out of the paint without leaving it hazy and dull like a typical compound would. For those who are unfamiliar with teh dual action compounds, they basically start out abrasive like a compound (though not NEARLY as bad as the old fashioned rubbing compound!!) and then break down to a polish as you rub it in.
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I tried the Meguiars Gold two weeks ago and the Black Magic last weekend, and I couldn't see any difference. I also put the Black Magic on my wife's black SUV. Both look good, like a wet unwaxed car. However, I didn't strip the Meguiars off of my car so maybe that had some impact on the comparison. I'm also not that much into detailing, so I'm sure my eye isn't as good as others when it comes to judging finishes. I think the CR article rated Black Magic more durable, however, so I'll probably stick with that for now.

I also tried a few different finishes for the black trim pieces, including Mother's Back to Black. I actually found that the stuff for tire sidewalls looks best, if you like a glossy look.
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