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Hi Guys am very new to this forums .. I bought 1965 GTO but when i showed it to a GTO expert he told me that it is Lemans but the vin is 65-23737-pon
can u please help me with decoding this
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please guys tell me what is this car it has the code 5W ??
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Hi Guys am very new to this forums .. I bought 1965 GTO but when i showed it to a GTO expert he told me that it is Lemans but the vin is 65-23737-pon
can u please help me with decoding this
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please guys tell me what is this car it has the code 5W ??
thanx
The GTO expert who looked at your car is correct, the 65 Lemans built in the Pontiac and Kansas City Plants which included the GTO option will also have the letter "N" on the 5th section of the acc. line. Your car should read 5NW if indeed it were a true GTO. You could purchase the PHS documents if you want more information about your car,

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Hi Guys am very new to this forums .. I bought 1965 GTO but when i showed it to a GTO expert he told me that it is Lemans but the vin is 65-23737-pon
can u please help me with decoding this
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please guys tell me what is this car it has the code 5W ??
thanx
Were you informed by the seller that it had a Chevrolet engine in it before purchase? If you bought this as a real GTO and assumed it had a Pontiac engine, you could have legal recourse. The VIN tag has been off for some reason too. Those are not original rivets.
It is a beautiful car though...

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Were you informed by the seller that it had a Chevrolet engine in it before purchase? If you bought this as a real GTO and assumed it had a Pontiac engine, you could have legal recourse. The VIN tag has been off for some reason too. Those are not original rivets.
It is a beautiful car though...
maybe it a tempest and they switched the numbers to make us think it is a lemans turned into gto clone. very sneaky
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Were you informed by the seller that it had a Chevrolet engine in it before purchase? If you bought this as a real GTO and assumed it had a Pontiac engine, you could have legal recourse. The VIN tag has been off for some reason too. Those are not original rivets.
It is a beautiful car though...
well i knew that it is not the original engine , i was planning to have a correct period 389 engine in it , but when i knew that it is not original GTO i think am going to cancel this transaction and look for something else
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still looks like a real nice car. personally i was just kidding. the numbers dont mean anything to me.
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well i knew that it is not the original engine , i was planning to have a correct period 389 engine in it , but when i knew that it is not original GTO i think am going to cancel this transaction and look for something else
The value of this car is seriously compromised with the non-Pontiac drivetrain. If the price is based on a real GTO, which it isn't, I agree that you would be better to walk away.
Good luck on your continued search and when you find another candidate, bring the info here for verification. There is a lot of experience and knowledge here to help you find what you are looking for. Also, Pontiacs can be verified with documentation from Pontiac Historical Services, PHS for short. By contacting them, you can get the original build of a car with all options. The cost for a quick, faxed, copy is $65.00; a small price to pay to keep from being burned. Here is a link to their website and services. http://www.phs-online.com/services.htm

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Maybe someone should call NortheastAuto and let them know their car is a clone!

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Ahhhh......the all important disclaimer to relieve them of any responsibility...
They don't make any mention of the Chev engine in the add either. It's just a "V8 engine".

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The VIN tag has been off for some reason too. Those are not original rivets.


The vin tag will probably come back for a GTO, notice the serial sequence number on the vin is over 29,000 and the data plate build date is the 3rd week of November 64. The fisher hardtop body number on the data plate is only 4378 which is a realistic number for 2 +/- months of production.

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