Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Gastonia, NC - Born & raised in Connecticut - 31 years
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His mom's car? OK, does it have a clean title and does he have it in hand for your to view?
OK, I'm going to be hard on you. First, why is there mud up to the rear rims? Isn't that what I'm seeing? I would get the VIN and bring it to my insurance agent to make sure that an insurance claim has not been turned in on the car IF it was flood damaged and the car has been classified as "Salvage." If it has, you will most likely never get it registered again.
Second, the fact that he does not have a dwell meter to get the car running is BS. You install the new condensor/points and gap the points. Dwell meter can fine tune the points or tell you exactly what the dwell is, but you DO NOT need a dwell meter. I never used a dwell meter and my cars ran just fine.
I don't know how much you know about cars, but I would never take anyone's word for what they perceive as a solid car versus what I know is a solid car. Have looked at hundreds of cars over my lifetime that the seller said was a solid car only to find out that they were sales blind. Really ticks me off when I have to travel 1-2hours to look at it only to find a rust bucket that is a parts car - and I ask all the "right" questions.
It sounds like you are already starting off with a rough car that will need much work. Being honest, I would not expect it to be a turn key and drive car if that is your intention. You did not state miles. These cars are not like todays auto's that can go 300,000 miles. I suspect you will need to go through all the key components and rebuild - engine, trans, front-end, brakes, suspension, exhaust, etc.. Then there is going to be the body repairs and I don't know what you can do or will have to farm out. Prices are based on your skills and who you may have to pay for those things you cannot do. BUT.....maybe you get lucky and with minimum work can at least be driven - hard to say when it has not been on the road in a year and won't start.
The price, in my opinion, is way too high. I would not offer anything until I looked at the car and checked out that title/VIN. Match the VIN of the car with the VIN stamped on the frame to ensure it is legit and they match - same thing most DMV departments do nowadays.
Bring a bright flashlight. Crawl under the car and inspect the frame, body mounts, floors, etc.. You want to start with a solid frame - floors/body mounts can be replaced, but at $$$. Look through the front windshield where the dash meets it. Generally they rot there and that requires windshield removal & replacement metal. Same at the rear - bubbling indicates rot/rust under the paint. Look under the door sills - many don't look here and a lot of moisture builds up in the lower part of the door and can rust out. Look down into the backs of the fenders for rot/repair work. Trunk lids/hoods rot away under the various supports and edges/lips. If you see undercoating that is not factory, good change there may be issues. These cars did get undercoated floors from the factory which can preserve them, but it will be dried out and probably flaking, not fresh.
Bring a battery. Drop it in and check ALL lights, wipers, turn signals, brake lights, interior lights, etc.. The engine should spin over on the key even if it won't start. Things that don't work will cost more $$$.
Determine how much work it really needs and then if you still want a project car knowing it cost upwards of 15K (plus or minus depending on your skills) to rebuild it, then go for it. It is not a GTO, so as a Lemans, it will not pull in the same pricing. Most do the GTO clone, but you will have to really add more $$$ and may be upside down when all is said and done.
So as it sits without any more info, pics, or first hand inspection, I would put a value on it between $1800 - $2200 if it is a solid car and does not run. You might want to put a deposit on it with the agreement that you will pay him in full if you can get the engine running.
Just my honest, unqualified, and harsh opinion - so take it with a grain of salt.