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yes my PHS doc build card has the date and the body number listed. for my 65 lemans sports coupe
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Yes, Jim is correct, as well as the rest of you guys. I know of a very nice Blue Charcoal/blue interior post LeMans that was cloned into a tripower '65 GTO a few years ago. The owner/builder made no bones about it being a clone, and sold it as a clone for a reduced price. I saw it for sale by a dealer a couple of years later advertised as the real deal. For a LOT more money. (The car was gorgeous). The trick here: it was one of the few that the PHS was not available for due to a fire back in the day. So while the builder/first owner of the clone was honest, the second person or third person who was selling the car was not. Somebody got burned, but no real way to prove it's NOT a GTO unless you could find the old posts of the build with the VIN number.
Data/trim plates are being legitimately reproduced, but the outfits doing it require proof of the cars original colors and options, so they would need a copy of the PHS or the original trim tag. I have seen early Lemans's being cloned into GTO's as early as about 1981, even when real GTO's were fairly cheap. This has been going on for a LONG time.
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