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I just took possession of my wives grandmothers 1967 plum mist GTO that is all original. They were the original owners, I have the dealer bill of sale and history on the car. It has been driven very little in the last 15 years. It starts right up and sounds great. the body is in very good condition as it has always been garaged. The car is literally all original, the weakest part of it is that the engine compartment has all the original paint and looks pretty rough although mechanically the car is fine. I have had muscle cars before but never matching numbers originals. Where I need help is I do not want to do any restoration on the car that would reduce its value but it needs some work to make it a show car that we can drive. Does anyone have any suggestions to help me start this project? Would it reduce the value of the car if I say have the radiator refurbished or replaced? If I paint the engine compartment and replace the plastic components does it reduce the value? Am I better off just paying for a frame off restoration now as it has the original engine tranny and rear end?
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Don't you touch that car...LOL, at least until you have thought very carefully about what you want to do with it . It's best value is as it sits now, an original survivor. Very sought after color, what's on the options list? Is the engine bay rusted or just gunked up? That car at any show will get more attention than the best restoration there. I would clean it up, address any brake, suspension, hoses, fuel lines, etc. that need attention to make it safe. Where possible have your original parts reconditioned if new is needed try and get genuine GM parts. Then have it appraised for insurance purposes...Hagerty is a specialist and will offer both. Worn out cars deserve restoration, time capsule deserve preservation, just my Two cents. Welcome to the forum, lets see some picks of the plum...

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I'm very fortunate to have found something similar albeit a less desirable color and body (post coupe). I would make it safe and drivable first, then assess what it would take to just clean it up under he hood. You'ld be surprised what you can accomplish in an afternoon with some cleaner, some triple 0 steel wool, masking tape and Pontiac silver blue metallic paint!

Don't "restore" it if it doesn't need it though!

When the only tool in your toolbox is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.
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If the car is clean, even a with a little "patina" I would fix only what is necessary for safe operation and clean it up.

A full boat resto is expensive, time consuming, wallet consuming and if the car is nicely preserved original could actually lower the value of the car and its desirability to certain collectors.

They're only original once!!!

I would even consider not using repro parts on trim and upholstery that need replaced and fixing the originals or finding NOS and good used parts if they are available.

Subbing for pics of Plum Mist GTO.
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X4, big time. Preserve, don't restore. 20 years ago, your car would have been a candidate for a frame off restoration. A lot of them were done. Frame off restorations are nice, some nicer than others. A frame-off restoration effectively 'wipes the slate clean' and you end up with a 'new' car. But it's a car without a history. A car without a story. A car that's lost it's heritage. Not an end-all: new history can be made, but usually these cars are rarely driven. Original, imperfect, driven, loved, and enjoyed cars are far more interesting, and cars like yours that are unmolested and are a survivor are far more valuable. Post some pics!!
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I might pull the motor for a reseal/detailing/repainting and detail/repainting of the under hood, but that's about it.
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A picture of me picking up the car. I know it's not great, I'll take better pics this weekend and post them. Took a drive around town today, runs great, AC works, lots of head-turning. We are really enjoying it.
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BTW thanks for all the advice. I had a feeling the original condition of the car and the traceable history was valuable, it is certainly valuable to my family and that is why I bought the car. I am still decoding the car to figure out what it is. I know its not a tri-power rubber burner at this point and that is about all. Forgive my ignorance I was always a Chevy Camaro and Chevelle guy, this may take a little time. My wife's Grandfather was a GM mechanic at the local dealership and bought the car as a mix between a family car and a muscle car. I should have the vin decoded tomorrow.
Again thanks for any help and I will post more picks this weekend. I did verify Purple Mist as the original color and believe most of the car has original paint, it is in really good condition considering it is 46 years old. It never spent a night out of a garage.
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Welcome to Forum. Man that's looks like a great Pontiac. Where you out of???? How about a quick question. What color are the wiper arms down in the cowl vent area??
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Beautiful car, PHS is a must have, for about $100 they can provide you with a copy of the build sheet, billing history and a copy of the window sticker when the car was new.

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