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A leap of faith.. ? 4 all u gto guru's

GOT MY SELF INTO A GOOD ONE..LOL.. I DO MOSTLY 1/8 MILE RACING AND DRAG HOTRODS BUT JUST UNLOADED A (TRYING TO BE MINI) RESTO
65 LEMANS,TEMPEST, GTO?
A REAL GEM HEAR..LOL MY HEAD IS HURTING MORE AND MORE EVERYDAY..

ANYONE EVER HEARD OF A 65 LEMANS TEMPEST GTO WITH A VIN TAG STARTING "252", 25237
I HAVE BEEN GOING DECODING CRAZY FOR THE LAST 2 DAYS.
I KNOW GTO'S ARE SUPPOSED TO BE 242, AND 252 COMES UP CATILINA
ALTHOUGH I FOUND THE BODY TAG HAS 65-23737 WHICH I FOUND ON LINE THAT IT IS A 65 2 DOOR SPORTS COUPE (HARD TOP 10)
WHICH IS GTO OPTION
ALSO FIGURED OUT TODAY THE ENGINE IS A 65 389 WITH 65 389 HEADS.
ANY OPINIONS OR INFO FROM YOU 65 GUYS OR ANYONE ELSE AS WELL WOULD BE GREATLY APPRICIATED!
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In '65, the GTO was Lemans option(382). There was never a 242 in '65. If yours is a 252 and it comes up a Catalina, the vin tag has been switched. That just makes zero sense why someone would do that. The vin should start out with 237. I take it, it doesn't have a post? Do you have pics?
A 25237 is a Catalina/Ventura 2dr hardtop......

What's the stamped 2 letter engine code located where it sez "1965 and later" in the pic?




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Its a yc and car has no post i will put up pics soon.
the casting numbers on the block are (back by the dis) 9778789
and the head has gm 77, after looking on line i came up with 65 389.
Yea i know its strage with the 252 in the vin.. My guess was switched as well... But catilina?
What about the body tag..23737? Thats gto option?
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The only way to know for sure if a 64-65 or 72-74 is a GTO is to check the build sheet. PHS can do that for you, the VIN didnt have a separate number for those years because it was a model option on the LeMans/Tempest or in 74 Ventura.
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Its a yc and car has no post i will put up pics soon.
the casting numbers on the block are (back by the dis) 9778789
and the head has gm 77, after looking on line i came up with 65 389.
Yea i know its strage with the 252 in the vin.. My guess was switched as well... But catilina?
What about the body tag..23737? Thats gto option?
Your going to love this. A '65 YC, 9778789 block was originally in a b-body, aka Catalina(or the like). 77 heads were correct for a '65 389. 23737 tells you it's a Lemans hardtop. Like already mentioned, it does not tell you whether it's a GTO or not.... The engine originally was in a A/C car and had a 2 barrel w/automatic.

Maybe someone swapped the engine out of a Catalina and took the vin too thinking they were keeping it #'s matching(someone who doesn't have a clue what they're doing).. Who knows what happened...

YC B-body 65 389 290 Turbo 400 1x2 9778789 2 AC



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kAOSRACING, do you have the ability to post digital photos of both the VIN tag and the Data tag?

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I FOUND THIS ;

1965 Pontiac Body Plate Data

MY BODY TAG READS ;STYLE- 65-23737 PON 7444

TRIM 213-B

BEAR, I'M TRYING TO GET UP PICS TONIGHT, ITS A BIT TOUGH THEY ARE HARD TO SEE WITH A CAMERA
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http://www.cardomain.com/ride/390546...pontiac-lemans

double click on it and it should get bigg enough to read.

just put a few more up...

thanks 4 the interest and help green goat... yea it seems to be getting better and better by the day... lol


thumpin 455 were in sc did the 65 come from?
i'm in summerville

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http://www.cardomain.com/ride/390546...pontiac-lemans

double click on it and it should get bigg enough to read.

just put a few more up...

thanks 4 the interest and help green goat... yea it seems to be getting better and better by the day... lol


thumpin 455 were in sc did the 65 come from?
i'm in summerville
I looked at your pics, the VIN rivets look different from the ones on my 65. I brought up a pic I have of it and compared them. Why someone would put a Catalina VIN on it is beyond me. It definitely look sswapped compared to what I see on mine.

I got it in the upstate near Greenville. Found it down there a year after I moved to Michigan.

I was stationed in Charleston for 5 years, lived off Dorchester road. Used to race at Low Country and Dorchester. Still have LOTS of friends down there. There was a green T37 in West Ashley not far from the first exit on 526, but the guy thought it was worth gold despite being a 350 2 barrel car. Used to be a black 421 Catalina 2+2 about 4 blocks from King Street, but it vanished around 2003.
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http://www.cardomain.com/ride/390546...pontiac-lemans

double click on it and it should get bigg enough to read.

just put a few more up...

thanks 4 the interest and help green goat... yea it seems to be getting better and better by the day... lol


thumpin 455 were in sc did the 65 come from?
i'm in summerville
12A 2(assemble date)
12 - Dec
A - 1st week
2 - maybe 2nd shift

Body(assembly plant)
PON - Pontiac MI
7444 - body # assigned by Fisher

Trim
213 - Black
B - Buckets

Paint
A - black

2BG
2 = Group 2
B = floor mounted 3-speed syncho-trans
G = console

5N
Group 5
N = GTO



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