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Looking at a 1967 gto

4 speed? automatic on the floor.
421 just rebuilt
fresh paint
interior is missing some pieces.


the car needs a few more parts installed to be running, which the owner has.
Hes a older gentleman and has given up on the car.

what should i ask him about?
how to i make sure it is not a clone?

what kind of brakes come stock on 67s?

im a previous c3 vette owner
wanting something with a back seat
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4 speed? automatic on the floor.
421 just rebuilt
fresh paint
interior is missing some pieces.


the car needs a few more parts installed to be running, which the owner has.
Hes a older gentleman and has given up on the car.

what should i ask him about?
how to i make sure it is not a clone?

what kind of brakes come stock on 67s?

im a previous c3 vette owner
wanting something with a back seat
Real GTO's have VIN's that begin with 242. There are many wb sites that explain how to decode the various Pontiac VIN and data tags, here's one.

There were two brake systems used in 67, 4-wheel drum, and optional front disc, rear drum.

If it really does have a 421, then it can't be the original engine. You can positively identify what it is using information from this site.

There are other sites with information too, and be aware that not all of them agree with each other especially when it comes to some of the more obscure cylinder head codes. It pays to check many sites to get a consensus, if you have doubts.

If it's an automatic and has the original tranny, then it will likely be a 3-speed Turbohydramatic 400. Very strong.

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[QUOTE=Future Goat owner?;256169]4 speed? automatic on the floor.
421 just rebuilt
fresh paint
interior is missing some pieces.


the car needs a few more parts installed to be running, which the owner has.
Hes a older gentleman and has given up on the car.

If it just needs "a few" parts to be running, why did'nt he get it running so he could sell it for more. any non-running car, rebuilt engine or not is just that a non running car (lower price). why is he giving up? does he have receipts for the engine parts so you know it was built right and not just a freshen up. Check the trunk pan under the back window and if you can peal back the carpet and check the front floor pans for rust and or patches. these are the two weak spots in most of these cars, caused by leaky or rusted out window sill panels front and back. feel and look behind all lower body panels for patches and body work, they rust out where most old cars do, down low. Interior parts are all reproduced for the 66's, if its a four speed auto (overdrive) it has a newer trans in it, stock would be as Bear said a TH400. If the paint and body look good (most expensive part of resto to farm out) and you are mechanically inclined and can finish yourself could be a nice little project, wheres he at on price?

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How much would a car like this go for
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You need to post up pics of the body, and give location so we can give you an honest eval of what we would pay. A solid body with a 428 that is in nice shape non running would be at around $5K IMO, more or less.. Non original motor or dealer installed? Pay the least you can...

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5k serious or a joke?
I don't even see beat gtos going for 5000
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I was talking a barn find car, nice body with an unknown engine, just complete. Well, I didn't know the condition. It's a nicer looking car than I thought. OK, nice car, wrong engine. So, it's a complete car.. What are the miles, how does it run, is it 242 vin code? Why did he give up on the car? Really nice GTOs go for high $20Ks. So, if that is a great car that is just sitting, $10K - $15K would be good?? What does he want for IT??
I had 3 78s and a 77 Vette, so had my share of C-3s..
I paid $7500 for a 66 Cloan that looked good in pics, and ended up in pieces and is with the body man now. Motor was a junk 389, 400 in it now.. Condition dictates value, how much do you have to rebuild???

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242 vin means gto as someone else stated, right?
I would hope it's a true gto.
Car does not have the new radiator installed so it can't really run, which I would want to install and ensure the car runs before buying.
He's in his mid 60s and has diabetes.
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what is the gap in the front grill, passenger side?
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we only talked for 6-7minutes, sounded like it need 200-300$ more to be running driving aswell as the radiator installed.

Can anyone tell what its missing from the engine bay picture?
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