Looks to have potential, but........
: "But I bought this car cause itís a driver and it will be driven a lot on road trips with my 2 children. I need it to be reliable.
: I am baffled as to where this asinine Myth
that a Pontiac engine is somehow not reliable.
I would really like someone to tell me specifically, and with unequivocal proof, that a Pontiac engine is not reliable! Really, this is BS that gets my panties in a wad and then some.
You stated you are looking for a driver and it will be driven on road trips. OK, so build the engine aimed at road trips, a common sense horsepower output and RPM range, not one that is aimed at street/strip, turn 6,000 RPM's, runs 3.55 rear gears and spins 3,200 RPM's at a highway 70 MPH for long periods of time.
The Myth comes from the "other" makes owners who favor their make - not from a real Pontiac owner/enthusiast. It may also be a residual statement left over from the days when Pontiac was dominating the street scene. I did not say drag racing - no question Mopar had that sewed up and one of the reasons the NHRA changes the Heads Up rules and you raced against the time you posted and the car closer to that posted time would win, thus a Hemi Cuda could be seen racing a Ford Pinto and the Pinto win the match!
I have this really neat book called Wards 1968 Automotive Yearbook. It is a yearly publication that gives you all the automotive, truck, buses, and import car totals as well as breaking them down by model. Just for giggles, for 1967, the total known number of all PONTIAC automobiles registered
in the US was 583,198.
Chevrolet had the highest total of registered cars with 1,359,662 with Ford in second with 1,179,932. No surprise there as both had base models far cheaper than Pontiac and Chevy & Ford had more dealerships and a better nationwide network. BUT, the amazing thing is that PONTIAC sales come in at 1/2 of what Chevy and Ford show registered. Hmmmm, not dependable? Then why so many still on the road?
The next make behind Pontiac in 4th place is Buick with 395,544. That's 187,654 behind Pontiac, so almost a difference of 200,000 cars. Hmmmmm. Pontiac's aren't reliable???
Taking this further, let's compare 1967 new cars manufactured of competing or adversary models. The Chevy Chevelle - 369,133. Ford Mustang - 472,121. Pontiac Tempest - 301,069. Next closest rival? Oldsmobile F-85 - 251,461. Pontiac Tempest for 1966 produced 359,098 cars. Hmmmmm. Chevy and Ford sales are once again, no surprise. Pontiac on the other hand, well, they must have fudged on their production numbers BECAUSE
we all know how unreliable a Pontiac engine is.
Have in hand a neat report put out by Buick. They wanted a share of the market in the upper end "graphics
" cars of what they called the "A" Car Line
. They used 1969 production numbers. The top 4 were: Chevelle - 457,039. Torino - 350,088. Tempest - 286,878. F-85 - 283,878. Holy Crap Batman! Do I see the Tempest line still at number 3 after all these years? No Robin, that's obvious the dubious doings of the Penguin in a diabolical scheme to take over Gotham with Chevies and Fords. Hmmmm. Even Buick saw things for what it was. And how many Skylarks were sold in 1969? 235,093.
Thus enter the Buick GSX (base price $4171.00) as a model offering to go against the GTO Judge (base price $3376.00), Olds W-30 (base price $3757.00), Torino Cobra (base price $3073.00), and they threw in the Charger R/T (base price $3484.00) also as a comparison car. (Base Price is the list price the car is sold by the dealer, not Dealer Net which the dealer purchases the car for - GSX Dealer Net was $3269.17)
Wow! If that darn Judge had just been more dependable. BS! Apparently Buick thought it pretty good, good enough to come up with the GSX and its extra cost Stage 1 455CI option in an attempt to spank that GTO Judge and its RA IV option.
Have I made my point yet? Anyone who tells you that a PONTIAC engine is not reliable, is the ENEMY, talking out their butts, is jealous, or simply wants to sell you on a corporate engine that never went into a Pontiac and rationalize it with you because it is a GM engine and Pontiac is a GM car. I want some of that Koolaide to drink too, and maybe the world will be a happy place.