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Pontiac shifts into park after 84 muscular years

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Pontiac shifts into park after 84 muscular years
GM's agreements with dealers of the iconic brand are ending Sunday


DETROIT Pontiac, whose muscle cars drag-raced down boulevards, parked at drive-ins and roared across movie screens, is going out of business on Sunday.

The 84-year-old brand, moribund since General Motors decided to kill it last year as it collapsed into bankruptcy, had been in decline for years. It was undone by a combination of poor corporate strategy and changing driver tastes. On Oct. 31, GM's agreements with Pontiac dealers expire.

Even before GM's bankruptcy, Pontiac's sales had fallen from their peak of nearly one million in 1968, when the brand's speedier models were prized for their powerful engines and scowling grills.

At Pontiac's pinnacle, models like the GTO, Trans Am and Catalina 2+2 were packed with horsepower and sported colors like "Tiger Gold." Burt Reynolds and Sally Field fled the law in a Firebird Trans Am which raced through the 1970s hit movie "Smokey and the Bandit."

By the late 1980s, though, Pontiacs were taking off their muscle shirts, putting on suits and trying to act like other cars. The brand had lost its edge.

Bill Hoglund, a retired GM executive who led Pontiac during its "We Build Excitement" ad campaigns in the 1980s, blames the brand's demise on a reorganization under CEO Roger Smith in 1984. That overhaul cut costs by combining Pontiac's manufacturing, engineering and design operations with those of other GM brands.

"There was no passion for the product," says Hoglund. "The product had to fit what was going on in the corporate system."

Although the moves were necessary to fend off competition from Japanese automakers with lower costs, they yielded Pontiacs that looked and drove like other GM cars.

By 2008, the last full year before GM announced Pontiac's shutdown, sales were 267,000, less than a third of those sold in 1968.

Formed in 1926, Pontiac made cars for the working class until a sales slump in the 1950s nearly killed it. GM revived the brand by connecting it to auto racing. From then on, each Pontiac sales boom was driven by speed; each bust generally featured outdated or boring rides.

The brand's most storied muscle car, the GTO, came about when some GM engineers took a small car called the Tempest and put a powerful V8 engine under the hood. The letters stood for "Gran Turismo Omologato," Italian for "ready to race."

Sparked by the GTO, the Pontiac brand thrived, making up 17 percent of the 5.4 million cars and trucks GM sold in the U.S. in 1968. The GTO even spawned its own 1960s hit song.

"C'mon and turn it on, wind it up, blow it out GTO," was the chorus of the tune by Ronny and the Daytonas.

Pontiac's decline stemmed from a lack of a consistent strategy or leadership. Executives rotated through every few years on their way up the corporate ladder, each with a different vision. Some even tried to make Pontiac a luxury brand.

One strategy that eventually hurt the brand was rebadging: putting the guts of less powerful GM cars inside the skins of Pontiacs.

Big economic shifts also damaged the brand. Two gas spikes in the 1970s steered Americans toward smaller cars with more fuel-efficient engines, areas dominated by Japanese automakers in the U.S.

About two dozen unsold Pontiacs now linger at dealerships around the country, including a maroon G5 coupe that sits awkwardly in a no-man's land between used cars and new models next to the showroom at Orr GM Superstore near Little Rock, Arkansas. The car, which is really just a poky Chevrolet Cobalt gussied up with a spoiler, fancy wheels and the red arrowhead Pontiac logo, has been on the lot for more than 700 days. Sales Manager Alex Valencia has knocked almost $7,000 off the sticker price, down to $16,585.

Despite spells of success during the last 30 years, Pontiac never returned to its supercharged sales of the 1960s.

A low point was the late 1990s, when Pontiac came up with Aztek, an attempt to merge campers with SUVs and win over young, outdoorsy Americans. The vehicle, which seemed more like a cross between a minivan and armored car, flopped.

In the mid-2000s, GM tried to rekindle the brand with powerful sedans, such as the G8, which harkened back to the GTO. But dealers wanted a full model lineup, and GM gave them renamed Chevrolets, diluting Pontiac's performance image, says Bob Lutz, GM's former product guru who headed up the effort to reinvigorate Pontiac.

This year, Pontiac's sales are less than 1 percent of the 2.2 million cars and trucks GM is expected to sell. GM built the last Pontiac in May.

Even after their Pontiac agreements expire, GM dealers will continue to service the cars and honor their warranties. But after this weekend, any new Pontiacs that remain on dealer lots will be considered used cars by GM.

Anthony "Tony" Augelli, owner of a Pontiac-GMC-Buick dealer in Gurnee, Illinois, near Chicago, still has a gleaming orange 2009 Solstice roadster that's the first car to greet customers in his showroom. Despite its prime perch, the $32,000 car hasn't sold.

Augelli gets emotional when speaking of Pontiac's end.

"I miss it already," he says.
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I attended one of Wangers seminars on the reason why Pontiac died. It was a VERY colorful presentation to say the least. He named names and why Pontiac tanked because of their actions. He was very candid.
He told me recently some didn't take too kind to his outing them and the story. He told me the story needed told, as most have no clue who the players were and what they did, and the results of their actions.
Why GM would hire a goof from Procter & Gamble to run Pontiac when he had NO experience in this field is baffling. This guy was the "toothpaste" guy. Its astonishing to hear the backgrounds of many GM hired to run Pontiac or being in its upper echelon of decision making. R I P

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Is it any wonder Pontiac went under..? Look at what they tried to market.



The Aztec has to be one of the fugliest vehicles ever.
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Is it any wonder Pontiac went under..? Look at what they tried to market.



The Aztec has to be one of the fugliest vehicles ever.



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I was hugely disappointed when they put the "new" GTO out for sale in 2004. If it had truly been a retro styled GTO, ala the Mustang or Challenger, I'd have been all over it.

A rebadged Holden Monaro...? No thanks.
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Is it any wonder Pontiac went under..? Look at what they tried to market.
The Aztec has to be one of the fugliest vehicles ever.
The descent started way before the Aztec:

The 'new GTO' at least captures some of the old Pontiac spirit.

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Sort of I guess. I haven't driven one so I don't know first hand. I'm not a fan of it's styling though.

I was born in the wrong decade. I'd have been much happier if my 20's happened in the 60's or 70's. I love the old muscle cars.
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Yeah..I agree the "new" GTO just aint got "it". Had Pontiac taken a hint from Ford who came out with a new T bird that was very retro then the new mustang and made a new GTO with old style updated it would have sold better..I doubt it would have single handedly SAVED Pontiac but it may have given them a boost and maybe a direction that could have pulled them out of the dumps. Had the GTO sold more who knows..maybe a new retro Firebird would have followed.

But the bottom line is I was HUGELY disappointed in the new GTO. confused
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The new GTO looks like a Grand Prix to me sadly. Not that I think it's a particularly bad looking car, but it shouldn't be called a GTO. Too bad the G6 and G8 were too little too late.

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