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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 04-29-2011, 10:09 PM Thread Starter
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When I start my Goat, (now that it starts lol) the starter sometimes binds.
I have the shim for it that was on there "back in the day",
wondering what the deal is.
I believe I can loosen the bolts and slide it closer or farther to the flywheel.
Will either solve this?
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may need another shim, might be too tight to the flywheel.
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Mine did the same thing when I purchased the car, the guy who installed an aftermarket starter never bothered to shim, the previous owner lived with the grinding and I ended up replacing the flywheel as a result.

Does your starter have a bracket on the rear to help hold it? Even after installing a bracket I need many shims as the starter I replaced with had a gap, it starts smooth now with a bracket and many shims.

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if you can loosen the bolts and move it around it sounds like you might not have the correct bolts.


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I just did my starter a minute ago, and it had 5 or so shims in it. I think you gap it 1/8 - 1/4". Way more shimming than a SBC.

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I have only one shim (don't know the thickness)
And no there is no bracket on the back.
This Goat, I only found most of the parts to it with a miners light.
I do indeed have the right bolts............
Gonna try simply loosening the bolts, and slide it outboard as much as I can.
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Topkat, that's not the way to do it. You need the rear bracket (the vendors have them) and you need to pull the outboard mounting bolt and loosen the inboard one to slide more shimes in. My '67 has 5 or 6 shims. They sometimes take a lot. Jetstang and tempestGT are right: it should not be adjustable by moving it around on the bolts and it should be shimmed 1/8 or more. Do it right, now that you're under there fooling with it.
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I dont' know why, but Pontiac designed them to use a stack of shims. Chiltons will tell you how thick, but it is def more than 1 shim. The starter will bind in the flywheel and not retract. You are supposed to engage the starter and put a drill bit between the teeth to make sure you have the right gap, but that involves removing the selonoid and shimming. I shim till it doesn't make any bad noises. GTO is right, on a straight mount pad, you need the rear starter support.

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rear starter support?
scratches head............is that what the big stud on the rear of the starter is for?
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Yep, it goes from the motor mount to the lower bolt on the starter. It's about 10" long, hole on each end and 45 degree twist in the middle of it.

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