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What is this - ad says 71 GTO Judge

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Found this ad for a 71 GTO Judge. Looks like a Lemans, but has a lot of strange stuff. Is this a real car or a Lemans with a bunch of add ons? I know that pontiac did some weird stuff in Canada.
- Rear spoiler
- Judge decals
- GTO emblem in grille
- Strange hood
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All,

Found this ad for a 71 GTO Judge. Looks like a Lemans, but has a lot of strange stuff. Is this a real car or a Lemans with a bunch of add ons? I know that pontiac did some weird stuff in Canada.
- Rear spoiler
- Judge decals
- GTO emblem in grille
- Strange hood
Well, on the surface, it looks to be a LeMans with Judge stripes and a really f-ing, butt-ugly aftermarket hood.
Also, hard to see in the pic, but the spoiler looks more like a 69 type, then the 70-72 airfoil design.

If you can get the VIN, that will tell the whole story.

GTO = 242371*XXXXXXX w/* = Letter code for assembly plant
LeMans = 235371*XXXXXXX
LeMans Sport = 237371*XXXXXXX
Tempest = 233371*XXXXXXX

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im almost 100% sure its from canada
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That is an ugly hood ....not even close. The front nose resembles a 1970 more than it does a 1971 particularly the grilles. Someone didn't see the cloning through to the end.

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And it probably has a 402 under the hood!

Don't you find it funny the three guys in the same club are looking at this.
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The lack of the endura front end and the grills are typical of the lemans. I can't imagine someone ordering a Judge with the endura delete option.

Just another clone, what do you mean by "weird stuff in Canada?"


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ive seen a car that looks like it on ebay awhile ago..and in some magazines ive seen canadian pontiacs and chevys that look rly wierd..like it would have the body of a 69 chevelle and the grill would look like an olds grill and it had a olds 442 hood but it was a pontiac..beaumont is one of the names of the pontiacs that were made in canda..they have grills,fenders,hoods,decals,rims,emblems,and other misc. stuff on the car from other cars..most of the pontiacs made for canada were chevy powered..i almost bought a gto from canada and it originally came with a chevy 302..lol..i checked the vin and the engine id numbers too..kinda wierd though..i didnt trust it so i didnt buy it..car was worked alittle bit..pretty fast but it didnt seem right with a 302......................
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ive seen a car that looks like it on ebay awhile ago..and in some magazines ive seen canadian pontiacs and chevys that look rly wierd..like it would have the body of a 69 chevelle and the grill would look like an olds grill and it had a olds 442 hood but it was a pontiac..beaumont is one of the names of the pontiacs that were made in canda..they have grills,fenders,hoods,decals,rims,emblems,and other misc. stuff on the car from other cars..most of the pontiacs made for canada were chevy powered..i almost bought a gto from canada and it originally came with a chevy 302..lol..i checked the vin and the engine id numbers too..kinda wierd though..i didnt trust it so i didnt buy it..car was worked alittle bit..pretty fast but it didnt seem right with a 302......................
I'm pretty sure the Beaumont was a re-badged Chevelle (66-69), it used the same dash as the Tempest/Lemans/GTO. In 1970 the Pontiac Tempest/Lemans/GTOs were imported into Canada. As far as I know in 71 the GTO was only built in the Atlanta, GA., Baltimore, MD., Framingham, Mass., Pontiac, MI., Arlington, TX. and the Freemont, CA. plants. The car you were looking to buy was probably a 66-69 Beaumont with GTO emblems.

Here is a 68 Beaumont,




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well i could be wrong lol...

but it was a white 65 wtih a black convertable top
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The lack of the endura front end and the grills are typical of the lemans. I can't imagine someone ordering a Judge with the endura delete option.

Just another clone, what do you mean by "weird stuff in Canada?"


"I mean like the Jury that was dreamed up in Canada. A 1970 Lemans, with the Lemans front end, GTO hood, 1969 rear spoiler, bench seat, a funky stripe going over the top of the car, and a 350 engine..." I'm not saying that I would mind having one today, but that's my explaination of "weird stuff in Canada".
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