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2016 Pontiac Powered Class Racing

OK race fans, it's time for the season to begin. Most of the Pro cars and quite a few Sportsman class cars are gathering up at Pomona, to kick off the NHRA national event schedule, with the Winternationals. On the pre-entry lists, I can see 6 Stockers and 4 Super Stockers, with Pontiac power !

https://www.nhraeventreg.com/ListEve...=PC1&cc=8&rn=1

https://www.nhraeventreg.com/ListEve...=PC1&cc=7&rn=1

Good luck to all racers, with Pontiac Power !

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Pomona Q-1

OK, round 1 of Stock qualifying is in the books. Brad Burton & Tommy Brown are #6 & #7, on the list.

POMONA 1 - Stock Eliminator Qualifying, Session #1 Order

In Super Stock, Leo Glasbrenner has the Quickest Pontiac, on the Q-1 list.

POMONA 1 - Super Stock Qualifying, Session #1 Order
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Interesting to see the '72 HO Formula in D/SA. Wonder, if NHRA refactored the '72 HO engine. Over the years, E/SA has typically been the quickest NHRA stock class one would see a '71 or '72 lightweight HO car, quite a few others have run in F/S and G/S. Awesome performance, no matter what from a well scienced out combo. Hats off to the Burton's!

engine compartment pic: Brad Burton '72 HO Formula Stocker


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"...engine compartment pic: Scott Burton '72 HO Formula Stocker..."


May just be a typo--Brad has the '72--Scott has the '70 RAIV.

Below is an older pic of Scott's engine. Don't know how it looks now ?


"...Wonder, if NHRA refactored the '72 HO engine..."

According the Class Racer Info site, it's factored at 340hp.

http://classracerinfo.com/EngineSpec...0&MAKE=Pontiac

And they'll let you add or remove weight, to run either the car's natural class, or a class above, or a class below.
I think they sometimes pic the class which they think will have the fewest quicker cars in it, at a particular race, since same class runs are heads-up, no breakout.
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Pomona Q-2

Lindy Lindholm just moved to the top of the Pontiac Stock heap, with a run which was over a second under his index !

POMONA 1 - Stock Eliminator Qualifying, Session #2 Order

After the final round of Stock qualifying, 5 of the top 16 cars are Pontiac powered ! That's beats the Chevy powered cars !

POMONA 1 - Stock Eliminator Final Qualifying, Session #3 Order
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Yep, mixed up father and son's names.

amazing attention to drivetrain and chassis detail. would love to spend a few days getting the close up on the transmission build and converter. Lot of ET has been knocked off in that respect over the years.

Consider the following...
Pontiac E Stockers in the early- mid 70's were running mid to low 12's. I got to go over the ex Truman Fields '72 HO GTO stocker very well, two summers ago. As run as an NHRA stocker, very close to 10-1 C/R, no porting, NHRA cheater cam, stock intake, open headers, 4.33-4.56 gearing, 4000+ rpm stall converter, relatively tall 15" slicks. Today, competitive E stocker...high 10's-low 11's.

Today's quickest Pontiac Pure Stock Drag equivalents
(will factor as E/SA or F/SA, at best, if using the NHRA formulas).
Set up right, Pure Stock legal 455 HO (no porting, optimized 068 cam, no more than .421 lift) 2200 rpm max stall, 3.73 gearing, G70-14's on 6" wide wheels, full 2.5" exhaust through untouched 2.25 round port manifolds... low low 12's, with a high 11, just the right car and right air, coming very soon.

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Yeah, those times, on small hard tires, are absolutely AMAZING !!!

But after doing a lot of digging, I finally figured out why today's NHRA Stockers are running 2 seconds quicker.

Forged rods and pistons, plus trick ring combinations, aftermarket block if needed, unlimited cam duration and valve spring pressure(which requires special high cost lifters), any GM rear end, Cal-Trac type traction devices, lighter trans (like the trick TH200 or light TH350 with 2.75 1st gear), better converters, better slicks, stickier tracks, and some REALLY trick (but considered legal) engine building (by builders such as Parsons & Myers, and Heads-Up).

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E-1

OK, 4 Pontiac Stockers survived round 1 of elims, at Pomona--Tommy Brown, Brad Burton, Leo Glasbrenner, & Lindy Lindholm.

POMONA 1 - Stock Eliminator Round 1 Eliminations

3 Pontiac Super Stockers survived round 1--Keri Angeles, Leo Glasbrenner, & Art Peterson.

POMONA 1 - Super Stock Round 1 Eliminations
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Tommy Brown & Brad Burton are still alive after round 2, of Stock.

POMONA 1 - Stock Eliminator Round 2 Eliminations

After 2 rounds of SS, there are no Pontiac Super Stockers still in the hunt.

POMONA 1 - Super Stock Round 2 Eliminations

So, that leaves the 2 Stockers, to represent Pontiac Power, at Pomona, on Saturday. But, many years ago, we proved that it only takes 1 Pontiac, to win the race. Hey, there are twice that many, still in, at Pomona. Good luck guys !

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