60's GTO VIN Search for ownwership - Pontiac GTO Forum
User Tag List

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-28-2009, 09:17 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
60's GTO VIN Search for ownwership

Greetings,

I am primarily a Buick guy but I have one 70 GTO project that is taking a while due to the extreme neglect of the PO....

I have an opportunity to acquire a 66 goat in good condition with no motor. Everything else is very restorable and I am in love with this car.

The Problem:
I found this car by accident at an estate sale and no one has any record of the vehicle...I have tried AAA, and plan to go to the CA DMV, but they won't issue a new title without a bill of sale.....

Are there any creative ways to get this info? I'd hate to see the car get parted out if the current person in posession of the vehicle can't sell it in it's all original form....

Any help would be appreciated.

=GQ
66gtoquest is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-29-2009, 05:18 AM
 
67/04gto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 436
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Garage
you could always go through the ads in the magazines that offer to help get a lost or stolen title.
67/04gto is offline  
post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-29-2009, 07:37 AM
Former Super Moderator
 
Rukee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: South Central Wisconsin
Posts: 9,919
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Why can't you get a bill of sale from the estate?
Rukee is offline  
 
post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-29-2009, 08:22 AM
 
ppurfield001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Fort Mill, SC
Posts: 779
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rukee View Post
Why can't you get a bill of sale from the estate?



ppurfield001 is offline  
post #5 of 10 (permalink) Old 06-29-2009, 08:53 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I don't think I totally understand your question/issue. You haven't bought the car? You don't want to buy it until you know you can title it? Well anyway, maybe this will help: I had a friend who used to work at a bank dealing with cars and the DMV. I bought a classic jeep CJ3B one time and it had no title. One of the things she told me was that I'll need a Bill of Sale to title it. She said I could have anyone, even my wife, write a Bill of Sale, saying I bought it from her, they don't really care and it's really of no value to them but for some reason they need it. It seemed really strange to me but that's what she said. Of course, I'd use a buddy instead of my wife, "just in case". I ended up selling the jeep when I bought my GTO so I never did get to go through the experience. Best bet: call the DMV and talk to someone.
65GTO421HO is offline  
post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-01-2009, 02:01 AM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rukee View Post
Why can't you get a bill of sale from the estate?
As stated above "I found this car by accident at an estate sale and no one has any record of the vehicle..."...not even the people selling off the other stuff. They don't even know where the car came from, just that it's been there for many years....


Quote:
Originally Posted by 65GTO421HO View Post
I don't think I totally understand your question/issue. You haven't bought the car? You don't want to buy it until you know you can title it? Well anyway, maybe this will help: I had a friend who used to work at a bank dealing with cars and the DMV. I bought a classic jeep CJ3B one time and it had no title. One of the things she told me was that I'll need a Bill of Sale to title it. She said I could have anyone, even my wife, write a Bill of Sale, saying I bought it from her, they don't really care and it's really of no value to them but for some reason they need it. It seemed really strange to me but that's what she said. Of course, I'd use a buddy instead of my wife, "just in case". I ended up selling the jeep when I bought my GTO so I never did get to go through the experience. Best bet: call the DMV and talk to someone.
CA DMV are real sticklers when it comes to titles and registration. I plan to try what you said, I just wanted to make sure the car wasn't stolen or otherwise before I start a paper trail and end up getting someone in trouble...and no, I have not bought the car yet...
66gtoquest is offline  
post #7 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-01-2009, 02:42 AM
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 124
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I bought a 1965 Lemans that was sitting beside a house in Palmdale, CA. The guy that had the car had owned a machine shop that rebuilt the engine. The guy never came back to pay for the engine or for having it installed. 10+ years later the guy sold the car to me. I got it titled with a bill of sale from him and the car was never even in his name. I live in CA too.
topfuel67 is offline  
post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-01-2009, 07:56 AM
Former Super Moderator
 
Rukee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: South Central Wisconsin
Posts: 9,919
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 21 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 66gtoquest View Post
As stated above "I found this car by accident at an estate sale and no one has any record of the vehicle..."...not even the people selling off the other stuff. They don't even know where the car came from, just that it's been there for many years....
It doesn't matter, if you buy the car from the esstate, then THEY can give you a bill of sale for it. After all, you ARE buying it from them. You pay money, you get a receipt, the receipt IS your bill of sale.
Rukee is offline  
post #9 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-02-2009, 06:29 PM Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 5
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
The plot thickens...

Come to find out, the VIN tag is missing......no tag inside the drivers door between the hinges, no body options tag, etc.

I personally could care less about the legitemacy of it being a "bonafide" GTO, but it looks like it's time to move on....

Even if I could get a replacement VIN, it would be classified as a 2009 vehicle....

Thanks for the assistance.

66gtoquest is offline  
post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old 07-03-2009, 12:27 PM
64-67 Expert
 
geeteeohguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Fresno, California
Posts: 8,457
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 98 Post(s)
66 GTO quest.........you are making the right decision, big time. Move on to the next. They're out there, and, in this current economy, priced fairly.
geeteeohguy is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Pontiac GTO Forum > The 1964-1974 Pontiac Tempest, Lemans & GTO > 1964-1974 Tempest, LeMans & GTO Data Plate, Vin Tag and Drive Train Numbers

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Pontiac GTO Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
History of the GTO, GOAT Name Origin, and Tiger Theme GTO JUDGE In the News 2 10-13-2008 03:43 PM
I'm ready for a "Johnny Damon" like response... MJ2315 2004-2006 GTO General Discussion 30 05-09-2006 12:47 PM
Pontiac GTO Drifter - Car & Driver (Jul 04) m1das In the News 13 09-29-2004 08:11 PM
UK's Top Gear reviews the GTO. 1COOLPC 2004-2006 GTO General Discussion 4 08-10-2004 06:18 PM
2005 GTO information Troy Roberts 2004-2006 GTO General Discussion 9 08-05-2004 01:38 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome