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so how does someone know if they have a matching numbers 69 GTO
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You want to get your original build sheet for your car. It can be ordered and purchased from PHS. Just click on this link: https://www.google.com/search?q=PHS%...utf-8&oe=utf-8
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There are several threads on this subject. Here's what Wikipedia says: The term "number matching" (or "matching numbers") is a term used in the collector car industry to describe the authenticity of collectible or investment quality cars. Number matching generally means that a particular car still contains its original major components or has major components that match exactly the major components the car had when it was new. These "major components" are not always agreed on. The appearance of a number matching car likely could not be distinguished from an original car.

Major components. These are parts such as the engine, transmission, rear-axle assembly, and frame of the car, with intake manifolds, exhaust manifolds, body panels, and carburetors sometimes also considered. Many times these components contain dates, casting numbers, model numbers, VIN, stamped numbers, or codes that can match the original components that were on the car when it was new.

If you are buying a car that is said to be numbers matching, you should ask the owner to identify what they mean - what components are original to the car. Verification can be done, but it is not easy sometimes. Matt

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On Pontiacs built after 1965 (?) the engine block has the cars vin stamped on it. So any engine other than the original is NOT numbers matching.

I have a friend who is big on "matching numbers" and he's mostly a Mopar and Ford guy so to him, matching numbers means that the vehicle components in question must be built (and stamped or casting date) within a certain time frame before the car was built 2 to 4 months usually.

Me? I don't care as long as it looks and functions and I'm not going to pay more necessarily for matching numbers. What I mean is I would buy a clean car with an non original engine before I bought some clap trap with the original engine that needs everything done to it. Really depends on the car of course but I would have no trouble buying a GTO with a 421 if it was a clean car over some rust bucket with a worn out original 389 4bbl.
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