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How can you tell if the numbers match?

I have recently come across this 1966 GTO for sale. The owner says its a numbers matching car. That sounds really cool but I have no idea what it means or how to verify this. Can someone help out the new guy?
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This one is a "RANDY SPECIAL", he is good at this stuff. I can tell you that in 66 engine serial #'s were NOT stamped into the block. Wait for 05 GTO to reply.......good luck! Eric



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This one is a "RANDY SPECIAL", he is good at this stuff. I can tell you that in 66 engine serial #'s were NOT stamped into the block. Wait for 05 GTO to reply.......good luck! Eric
Thanks Eric,

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If you post the codes from the Data Plate, Vin Tag, manifolds, front of engine block, rear of the block (on the distributor pad), heads (093 on center exhaust ports), carb, transmission and the rear end (some rears were not stamped) there are several guys on this forum that can tell you if the codes are correct for 66, Pictures would be good, the best information will come from PHS Automotive Services, Inc.

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Thanks for the information. I will try to gather this and post it. The car is being offerd for $12000 it has been off the frame and the body appears to be solid. Looks like all it needs is the interior fixed and repainted. No miles since the frame off. Car has not been started in about 5 years. Worth it if numbers match?
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Was the engine, transmission and rear end rebuilt five years ago as well?

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Don't know what has been done mechanically at this point. I've seen the car and it looks clean enough to eat off underneath. It's current owner has owned it for 20+ years and just never did finish. Now he's just getting too old. He told me that the car has been started only a few times since the frame off. Still working on gathering more infromation but on the surface (no pun - ha) it looks like it at least worth investigating don't you think?
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Some questions you should ask when you look at the car, most of this should have been completed when the body was off of the frame;

*New bushings (control arms and body)?
*New tie rods?
*New brakes?
*New ball joints?
*New springs?
*Rebuilt engine, transmission and rear end?
*Rebuilt carburetor(s)?
*New heater core?
*Underbody, firewall and frame painted?
*New radiator?
*New fuel and brake lines?
*New fuel tank?
*Body sealed and primed?
*Is car paint ready, blocked?

I know I'm missing a few things, If all of the above items are completed and the numbers match, $12K is a good deal.

Ask for these documents;

*Motor rebuild documents?
*PHS documents?

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Thank you so much for the list of things to ask. Looks like I have some work to do. You have been extremely helpful in these first stages of "my first GTO" buying. Can't wait to find out more!
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OK. Here is what I came up with so far:
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11A 567 4
ST 6624217 BAL 1388
TR 223
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OOPS!
Sent that too soon. Here's some more:

VIN 242176108110
I got some numbers off the engine and trans but I really don't know if they are the right ones but here it goes anyway.
From the top of the intake just in front of the carb: 9799068
Rear of the block on the left sdie as you stand in front: 9790077
Front of the block: 40482
Head: 46
Carb: 7040562 XR
Trans.: 3857534 and 3925660

The owner says it's a 400 (but I'm not sure he even knows) which means to me that it's not matching???
Her's a picture. The off color on the hood in just a shadow.
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