well after talking to my friend about the various ways it seems best I just pull the engine, he said just make sure the box is supported correctly so its not moving anywhere, and move the engine forward about 1 inch, the engine should now be disconnected from the box, then lift engine out, seems the obvious way to go, just have to be careful the converter does not move forward during the process...
Remove the starter, remove the inspection pan and remove the 4 bolts that attach the converter to the flex plate,
Drain anti freeze, remove fan and fan clutch, radiator shroud and radiator.
Unbolt bell housing, I use a socket on a long extension.
Pull the two long bolts on the motor mounts.
Disconnect hoses, fuel line, loom etc.
Place bottle jack under tranny to support, you will have to raise the engine to clear the exhaust before you can pull it forward.
Make sure to run the bottle jack up as you lift.
The torque converter will not move forward as long as you have removed the 4 bolts holding it to the flexplate.