“A real American drives American iron, not a confused multi-cross constructed GM "corporate" engine that isn't sure if its Chevy, Oldsmobile, Buick, Cadillac, or GMC, but doesn't want to offend or hurt the feelings of the others as being brand specific. Used to be a time when a Pontiac engine was engineered by Pontiac, Buick engines were engineered by Buick, Oldsmobile engines were engineered by Olds, and Chevy engines were engineered by Chevrolet - those were the days of real American cars and not this one size fits all brands because we don't want to upset anyone or make then choose a specific brand and offend others who don't.”
Please elaborate on those statements. Pontiac – a division of General Motors employed Americans to design and build their engines just that same as every other division of General Motors. Decades later the LS engines were still designed by General Motors employees, though they may have not been specially affiliated with a particular GM division. I don’t see that making them any less American
Now you are going to play the Strawman argument.
A real American is one born of the Baby Boomer generation where life was well defined: ethics, morals, values, courtesy, and an understanding of "right" and "wrong" was the national backbone that was adhered to rather than not.
Each car company was a separate division and brand that ran itself. They competed against each other, trying to out do the other in style and/or engine options. Until the mid-1970s, most General Motors brands designed and manufactured their own engines with few interchangeable parts between brands
. In the mid-1960s, there were 8 distinct and separate families of GM V8 engines on sale in the USA.
In the early 1980's, GM consolidated its powertrain engineering efforts into the GM Powertrain Division so as to standardize its engines so that engines/engine parts were interchangeable between brands thus minimize production costs and increasing profits. Later, GM expanded into ownership of other European makes bringing their foreign engine technology into the fold, provided engineering assistance as needed to their GM global subsidiaries around the world, and GM worked out engineering sharing agreements with other car manufacturers. But the biggest factor in such an engineering consolidation was the cost of certifying so many different engines for tightening worldwide emissions regulations which threatened to become very costly.
So, was the LS engine reeeally designed by American employees, or were ideas and other technologies gathered from foreign sources? Keep in mind the 2004-2006 GTO is not even American, its from Australia. So how in heck can you even compare an American built 1964-1974 GTO with an American built engine to an Australian built 2004-2006 Flop
just because it uses a GM engine? See below the partial list of foreign engines used in GM cars. Kinda the same, except reversed.
GM was a parent company, an umbrella to not only cars, but many other divisions as well. They had/have aircraft engines, automotive engines, big truck diesel engines, etc.. And lets not forget all the foreign engines stuffed into GM brands like the Isuzu
G161 SOHC straight-4 used in the Chevrolet Chevette, the Toyota
A engine Inline 4 used in the Geo Prizm, the Toyota
DOHC Inline 4 used in the Pontiac Vibe, the Opel
"ECOTec" DOHC straight-4 used in the present Chevrolet Malibu Hybrid, and the list goes on.
So with your LS thinking, because it is from GM, and it was wedged into an Australian badge car called a GTO, that the LS or LT engine is an acceptable use in a once formally powered Pontiac brand car with its own separately engineered engine having no interchangeable parts with any Chevy engine of the day, small or big block??
If this is your thinking, which in my opinion certainly is, then I suppose any GM produced engine, whether it be gas or diesel, car, truck, or train, would be an acceptable substitute for any Pontiac powered Pontiac because is was manufactured by, or affiliated with, the GM Powertrain Division. It'll be a sad day when I see an Opel engine under the hood of a GTO because some Millennium or Generation X light bulb genius offers up an argument that it was manufactured by a General Motors employee and it doesn't matter what contry they were from.
A real American car is a car brand that is autonomous
and not a corporate concoction melded together from a mixing pot of various global auto manufacturers and/or engineering agreements designed to create a generic powerplant so as to minimize cost and maximize profits, and....... to meet global emission regulations. A real American car can be quickly identified BECAUSE it lacks most all emissions BS and did not give a damn what global countries thought of them.
A real American is one who drove a real American car and didn't give a damn what global countries thought of them, my generation, the Baby Boomers.