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power steering pump question.

So I am thinking I put everything back correctly. But if you look at the pics things are not lining up. alternator seems fine. power steering seems set back to far. Can't be spaced from the back because the stud will not reach through adjustment bracket. kind of stumped Anyone ever have this problem and solved it? (67 GTO 400).
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do you have the cup washer over the rear studs nut on the back of the reservoir ?
that might tip the top forward.. if its not on ....
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I'll have to check that out. You can see the alternator belt is slightly on the pump pulley. Weird. Also nobody told me the bleeder valves on my newly installed disc had to be on top. Lol. Fun fun fun.
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I guess I am understanding that it all aligned up well b4 the cam swap ?

no gremlins in your garage ....

yah .... the bleeders are not drain plugs like an oil pan . ....

picture of the back side would help of the slotted stud
is the cup washer backwards ??

hmmmmmmm
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I guess I am understanding that it all aligned up well b4 the cam swap ?

no gremlins in your garage ....

yah .... the bleeders are not drain plugs like an oil pan . ....

picture of the back side would help of the slotted stud
is the cup washer backwards ??

hmmmmmmm
so it never had power steering and I installed it all. Fairly simple task and it worked fine,but I must be missing something simple.Everything else lines up. Is any of these pics what you were asking about?
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I recently installed my ps pump on my 67. From what I can see, yours looks correct, but since it appears you are saying this is a new install, I would question the new parts. Where did you get the new bracket? Also, are there any shims behind the pulley on the water pump? Was the spacer between the alternator and the bracket the same as the one used before the PS was installed?

I wonder If the aluminum bracket was shaved sometime earlier in its life to make it fit some other application.
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I recently installed my ps pump on my 67. From what I can see, yours looks correct, but since it appears you are saying this is a new install, I would question the new parts. Where did you get the new bracket? Also, are there any shims behind the pulley on the water pump? Was the spacer between the alternator and the bracket the same as the one used before the PS was installed?

I wonder If the aluminum bracket was shaved sometime earlier in its life to make it fit some other application.
I installed the power steering a year ago and it worked fine. And just recently pulled my motor for a rebuild and I am sure everything is put back correctly but not lining up. Going to look into it better over the long weekend.
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Just went out and looked at my '67 with all original parts....looks exactly like yours, except my belt is lined up. You did install the short snout '67 water pump, didn't you? some of the later pumps are 1/2 inch longer and will throw your belt alignment off.
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I dont know. So there are two different kinds? The crank pulley and the water pump pulley I thought lined up. I'll have to take a good look. I also installed a new harmonic balancer from butler. Not sure if that's all the way seated then. Slipped in good then torqued to correct specs. I'll double check everything. Can you give me a measurement of some sort see if there is a difference?
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I dont know. So there are two different kinds? The crank pulley and the water pump pulley I thought lined up. I'll have to take a good look. I also installed a new harmonic balancer from butler. Not sure if that's all the way seated then. Slipped in good then torqued to correct specs. I'll double check everything. Can you give me a measurement of some sort see if there is a difference?
Alt belt may be too long and why it is what appears to be touching the pulley. A shorter belt should move the Alt in on the top bracket used for adjusting it in/out.

If the balancer pulley and water pump pulley are lined up, then they should be good - which goes back to a PS pump misalignment. In post #5 , pic #2 , it appears you have a washer sandwiched between the black "dog leg" bracket and the PS pump bracket. Remove it and put it on the backside of the PS bracket to move the pump forward?
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