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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 07-28-2005, 03:56 PM Thread Starter
 
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Answer to single-side exhaust on 04's?

I am just lost why they didn't do dual exhaust out the back on the 2004 GTO's... Was there any reason they put single exhaust? It looks horrible in my opinion...
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Because its the European style, coming from a European car. It is truly a dual exhaust, only the pipes are routed out next to each other. The split side is an "American Dual" setup. It was probably changed to appeal to the American consumer for which it is targeted at as a GTO. And in my opinion (and yours) it really looks good, the sales numbers of the 05 reflect it as well. You can change it on your 04 and there is a guy on this forum who did it and what a bang up job he did. He used oval tips and I think it looks absolutely killer. There are pics of his torrid red with focus on the exhaust on his thread. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
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2004 sales stunk, in part, because idiot dealers were asking $10,000 over sticker (plus $7000 for the cheapest and ugliest aftermarket wheel and tire combinations you've ever seen) for GTOs when they came out. $50K for a GTO? No, thanks. This crap was going on all the way until November.

After every single interested customer left empty handed, vowing never to set foot in a Pontiac dealer again -- voila -- a 200 day supply of unsold GTOs. Helloooooooo, discounts!

As much as I like the 2005s (the exhausts, brakes and LS2 -- everything except the scoops), I'll take my fire sale price and 0% note any time.

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You can change it on your 04 and there is a guy on this forum who did it and what a bang up job he did. He used oval tips and I think it looks absolutely killer. There are pics of his torrid red with focus on the exhaust on his thread. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful.
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One improvement you can't see is that the car sounds better, IMO. Deeper and a little louder, especially above 3K. I am assuming this is a result of the bigger pipes behind the mufflers (2.5")




It cost me about $500 all told for this set up using Banshee Exhaust inserts, some custom oval tips, and SS 2.5" pipe from the mufflers back; I paid a body shop to install the inserts and an exhaust shop to run the pipes.
PRYC (who sells the Banshee inserts) is now offering a package of the inserts and the oval tips (which are copies of what comes on some Escalades) for around $200.00. You could also shave money if you wanted to by getting regular aluminized exhaust pipe or even just getting the passenger side run; I really wanted SS.

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The 04 exhaust set-up running out one side also had another advantage - a larger trunk. The gas tank for the Monaro was originally in the other side location. Now with the fuel tank in the trunk to meet US safety regulations, there was room to run the exhaust out both sides as they did on the 05s.

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I think they wanted to be a little different. For me, my 94Z had dual. Put the American Thunder from flow master (cat back). Had 1 big 'ol sewer pipe out the left side. My 02 SS had dual-dual (SLP) cat back, so the GTO was a change from what I had. I like it. I don't like the '05's too many other cars with the two tone plastic and oversize ovals, but a goat is a goat; there all GOOD
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That looks Sweet Dan!
Thats an understatement. I am debating if I like that better than the 05 chrome tips. I am leaning twords yes.
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2004 sales stunk, in part, because idiot dealers were asking $10,000 over sticker (plus $7000 for the cheapest and ugliest aftermarket wheel and tire combinations you've ever seen) for GTOs when they came out. $50K for a GTO? No, thanks. This crap was going on all the way until November.

After every single interested customer left empty handed, vowing never to set foot in a Pontiac dealer again -- voila -- a 200 day supply of unsold GTOs. Helloooooooo, discounts!

As much as I like the 2005s (the exhausts, brakes and LS2 -- everything except the scoops), I'll take my fire sale price and 0% note any time.


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I think the announcement of 50hp scoops, and dual tips while 200days worth of GTOs were on the boat had more to do with it than the dealers doing what dealers do.
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