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I would take it in a Pretend like I don't know whats wrong with it and I would Change the Oil Before I Bring it n To just to make it look good... Then If they can't Prove nothing the Warranty Will Pay for it.......
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but it's about 4000 miles past the engine oil service, but the car didn't tell me until about 2 weeks ago, and i roughly do about 200 miles a week(thats why i'm pissed with myself too, i should of checked) so they could pull it's 4000 miles past the due for oil change, but they did work since then so it may of reset the computer, just stuck on what i should do, bascally i need to know if when they did the air bag module, when they reset the code to correct the error it also resets the engine oil service message too....
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Every year or when the car tells you, whichever comes first. 7000 miles sounds about right to me. I do mine every 3000, but it's not required. Also, anything within 500 miles of when the alert went off I consider fine.

As long as you didn't let the oil run low, I don't see an issue.
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The only thing you can do is be as smart as possible at playing ignorant.
I would at a minimum, ensure the car is filled with oil before you take it in.
If nothing else, you could say you do your own oil changes but don't reset the computer with the gas pedal (because you were ignorant). Best of luck.
And yes I do agree, you should take better care of "our car".

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The only thing you can do is be as smart as possible at playing ignorant.
I would at a minimum, ensure the car is filled with oil before you take it in.
If nothing else, you could say you do your own oil changes but don't reset the computer with the gas pedal (because you were ignorant). Best of luck.
And yes I do agree, you should take better care of "our car".

Yea, I agree with CPO and your assessment that your an idiot for not checking your engine oil level. I'm sure its a hard lesson learned that won't be repeated. Call it attending a class in the school of hard knocks and hopefully you graduated before the poor maintenance of your car results in other costly component failures.

Maintenance is the owners responsibility. So, failing to check the oil level and letting it run low was self induced and has nothing to do with the computer telling U squat about changing your oil!

Before bringing in your car, just top off the oil (do not change the oil, it would be fishy to bring in an engine with failed components and clean metal free oil) to the proper level, either reset the oil life monitor or if your paranoid enough find your radio unlock code and disconnect the red battery terminal for 15 minutes. This should erase all codes. If you disconnent the battery, after reconnecting it follow the procedure to unlock the radio security system and be ready to lie your a$$ off at the dealer.

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First off, if there is no oil in the engine the damage would be evident. Putting oil in it now will not disguise it. The tech will know damage done by no oil. Filling it up now will look to them you are covering your tracks. How do you explain clean oil in burned or scotched parts that will indicate no oil at all when the oil is fresh?

You don't say who changed the oil last. Who changed the oil last? If the dealer or someone else did and you have verifiable proof your warranty should protect you. If you did it you better come up with some good excuses as to why the oil pan is bone dry at 7k miles.

You can put oil in it and if you, do do not fill it and DO NOT change the oil filter. You'll want some dirty oil mixed in to make it look like the oil is a bit old NOT new. I'd put in maybe 4 quarts or so. The damage is done, try and minimize your explanations. Plead ignorant not stupid. IMO not checking oil in 7K miles is stupid.

The computer does not calculate oil changes by miles driven as outlined in a previous thread. It calculates it on engine revolutions and how the car is driven, only you can answer this. To me 7K could be close to the time even so there should be ample oil in the engine. Somebody either didn't fill the oil the entire way or your car is drinking oil like a drunken sailor downs brew. You did state you saw no oil leaks..... You have a lot of esplan'n to do Loocy.

Elementary car maintenance.... Check fluid levels OFTEN. Lots of Luck.

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Yeah. Brand new oil in a blown motor looks fishy as hell. Ive seen it. Always gives me and the techs a good laugh.
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What is up with the Goat running out of oil? Do they burn that much? Most people I talk to do not add any oil between oil changes as it stays within the operating range.

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Your car ran out of oil. As you know, that's your fault. Do you have a case because the oil service indicator came on? No way. Why? Because the oil service indicator doesn't have anything to do with the oil level in the car. It's just a guide to let you know when you oil's dirty.

As far as a strategy for dealing with this is concerned, you can try to play dumb and get repairs covered under warranty. However, do not be surprised if your warranty will be waived due to improper care. If that's the case, you're on the hook for either a rebuild or, more likely, new engine. Not cheap.

Another thing you can do is take the car to a local shop, tell them the truth, and pay them for an hour or two to diagnose what's really going on. Who knows, maybe you got lucky and can get away with the replacement of a few parts. Worst case, you can buy a used engine from http://www.clevelandpickapart.com and have someone drop it in.

Sorry to hear of such a large and expensive issue -- but checking your oil is so simple to do -- so instead of leaning against your car when filling it with gas, pop the hood and check its level.
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