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Does any have issues with downshifting to 1rst?

I just dropped my car off to have some things that have TSBs taken care of. The dealership is telling me that the TSBs are not valid and that nothing is wrong with my car. On top of that i have an issue with downshifting into first; it just grinds the hell out of the gear no matter how fast or slow i am going. The only way i can downshift is from a dead stop. I am told it is that way from the factory. Is this true?
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i've never had a problem going to first. I believe first is locked out if you are going faster than 40 mph. It certainly shouldn't be grinding...

I'd try a different dealer and/or ask them to show you another GTO that does the same thing...Grinding into gear from the factory is not correct.

You do realize that just because there is a TSB, that it doesn't neccessarily apply to your car...


BTW, I hate dealerships... didn't used to, but since I bought my Goat, they just piss me off more everytime I talk to them, read about them, etc. Nothing like the dealer making you feel they don't give a rats ass about you or your cars and know less about it than you do...
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Sounds like a synchronizer gear.

TSB's are valid. They are issued by the manufacturer of a particular car. The TSB may not pertain to your particular gripe, but if a TSB has been issued for a gripe you have they should be aware of it, and correct it. Don't know your inital issue of your complaints but if there is a TSB on it, they are obligated to repair it.

If you have proof positive of a particular TSB and they refuse to correct the issue, tell them you are reporting them and do it. Then go elsewhere. Believe it or not there are still some decent dealers out there.

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You do realize that just because there is a TSB, that it doesn't neccessarily apply to your car...[
If my car is suffering from an issue that has a tsb shouldnt they fix it? My lights point real low, i get tons clunk noises from rear when i shift and my drivers seat will not come forward. All of these things have TSBs. I dont know much about how all this works but i would assume that they wouldnt question it if its a known issue.
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TSB or no TSB. if there is a problem, and the dealer duplicates it, they should fix it or order the part accordingly. Thats what we do anyway. Order a part if it needs it, customer is happy, dealership makes money, all are happy lol Especially GTO parts, they tend to be expensive :-)
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i haven't exp. that. although i don't d/s all the way to 1st unless i stop.
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where you located virus e?
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I live in Columbus Ohio.

I picked the car up from the dealer and in a kind way said I wasn’t buying what he was saying about 1rst gear. His angle was "I didn’t need to shift into 1rst due to the gearing of the car". I agreed that for the most part he was correct as you can cruise in 2nd in parking lots. My issue is that if I am on a hill in neutral and a take my foot off of the break when the car starts to roll it will grind the gears when I go for first. If the car is not a dead stop it will grind. He saw my point and said he would look into it.
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I live in Columbus Ohio.

I picked the car up from the dealer and in a kind way said I wasn’t buying what he was saying about 1rst gear. His angle was "I didn’t need to shift into 1rst due to the gearing of the car". I agreed that for the most part he was correct as you can cruise in 2nd in parking lots. My issue is that if I am on a hill in neutral and a take my foot off of the break when the car starts to roll it will grind the gears when I go for first. If the car is not a dead stop it will grind. He saw my point and said he would look into it.
Regardless of TSB's, the issues you described warrant corrective action. Judging by the lame-brained excuse of shifting in to first by the person you talked to, I'd be searching elsewhere for service. You can either complain, and complain and get nowhere with this dealer, or you can seek service elsewhere and get your issues resolved.

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I live in Columbus Ohio.

I picked the car up from the dealer and in a kind way said I wasn’t buying what he was saying about 1rst gear. His angle was "I didn’t need to shift into 1rst due to the gearing of the car". I agreed that for the most part he was correct as you can cruise in 2nd in parking lots. My issue is that if I am on a hill in neutral and a take my foot off of the break when the car starts to roll it will grind the gears when I go for first. If the car is not a dead stop it will grind. He saw my point and said he would look into it.
oh.. was going to recommend dealer here in jersey,but regardless if your not happy they should make every effort to correct. doesn't sound normal to me though.
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