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Getting into an 04- can it be 05 fast?

Hey everybody - I'm in the middle of selling a MINI Cooper S right now and I'm thinking about buying an '04 Goat to replace it (anybody want to trade? ) . So, with the money I'm saving not buying the LS2, what kind of power can I expect to make on a short budget? I was thinking headers, cams, intake, but I'm not used to tuning a small block.

Any advice for a newbie? Should I just save for an 05?

Great board- looking forward to arguing with you guys over petty stuff sometime soon

Edit: I'll be taking her to the track, too, so things like brake quality are big factors for me, too. Is there any difference in the suspension? I looked at the brake thread and saw I'm probably going to want an 05 brake system

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If you have to wait go for an '06 model. Doubt there will be any new '05's much longer. Don't buy used, whatever you do........

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if u buy used u will save lots of $$$ and can put more mods on it to run with the 06 goats. if warnty is not that much of a factor
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Buy a manual transmission car. More usable power. An 04 can be as capable as an 05 if your car is properly tuned and if you know how to handle a manual transmission. Learn to shift gears without removing your foot from the gas pedal under full acceleration. Made the difference in my car from 13.60 to 13.30 1/4 mile. Learn how to launch the car with minimal wheel spin. Worth another few car lengths. No reason a properly tuned and driven 04 6psd should not stand with a stock 05-06 manual/auto or auto. In short, a really good driver and tuned car just about closes the 50hp gap.
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Buy a manual transmission car. More usable power. An 04 can be as capable as an 05 if your car is properly tuned and if you know how to handle a manual transmission. Learn to shift gears without removing your foot from the gas pedal under full acceleration. Made the difference in my car from 13.60 to 13.30 1/4 mile. Learn how to launch the car with minimal wheel spin. Worth another few car lengths. No reason a properly tuned and driven 04 6psd should not stand with a stock 05-06 manual/auto or auto. In short, a really good driver and tuned car just about closes the 50hp gap.
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I just bought my 04 a month ago and although my friend has an 05 thats a little faster, i haven't looked back since. Personally i don't mind cause i got mine for $23000 and it was GM certified, so the $10,000 i saved for 50 hp less and and hood and bumper was a simple case of economics to me. You can easily put in just $2500 worth of mods for performance and buy the hood and bumper if you like and still save at least $5000. But its all your preference, some people don't like used cars, but mine came with 10,000 miles so it was barely broken in, i just feel that was just a great find and too good to pass up.

Either way you will be happy with an 04, 05 or 06 model. Its just a matter of how much you are willing to spend up front.


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I'm buying a manual - there's no debate there. I'm glad to hear there are plenty of mods on the market to improve the car if I choose to do that.

Thanks for the advice guys. Now the question is what's the lowest price I can get on a clean, used manual...
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In my area of Los Angeles, The lowest i've seen for an 04 manual was $21,000 with 16,000 miles. For an 05 the lowest i've seen was $26,500 with 500 miles on it
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I live near Salt Lake City, Utah. This is the lowest I've seen so far; 2004, Automatic, with only 843 miles on the clock. I know it's an auto, but they only want $19,995.00. Here's the link just giggles: http://www.kslcars.com/VehicleDetail...pe=car#mainpic

I bought mine the last part of November 05. Mine is a 2004, Manual, with 5,800 miles and I paid $21,650.00.

The price is really good in this area for these cars, being rear wheel drive and all.

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With a cold air intake, full exhaust and a tune from a handheld programmer, you should be well on your way to 400 HP pretty easily.

With only a little more effort (i.e. cam, dyno tune, maybe heads), you can get to 450+ pretty easily.

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