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Steering Wheel Lock Problem

Help! My 04 AT GTO is now a 3,600 lb. boat anchor! The key won't turn in the ignition no matter how much jiggling, turning the wheel, mashing the brake pedal, fooling with the shifter knob I do.

The rear wheels are locked (it's in Park), the front wheels are turned about 45 degrees.

Anyone got any ideas? Please be constructive, I've already considered torching it.
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This happened to someone else on this board a short time ago. The dealer ended up replacing the whole colomn. Good luck to you and let us know what happens.
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This happened to me about a month ago. Dealer had to replace the whole steering column because (he said) the ignition switch couldn't be replaced with the steering column locked. Goat was in the shop for two weeks because there wasn't another column shown on any dealer's inventory in the continental U.S. so replacement had to come from down under.

Sorry to hear about your problem and hope your ride won't be down as long as mine. -Jim


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Help! My 04 AT GTO is now a 3,600 lb. boat anchor! The key won't turn in the ignition no matter how much jiggling, turning the wheel, mashing the brake pedal, fooling with the shifter knob I do.

The rear wheels are locked (it's in Park), the front wheels are turned about 45 degrees.

Anyone got any ideas? Please be constructive, I've already considered torching it.
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I've had that problem before in mine, every now and then it comes up again, it's taken me as long as 30 minutes to get my car started when it does that, but I figured it out somewhat, I jerk the wheel hard to the right while simultaneously turning the key hard to the right. Also, I've noticed the key can't be pushed in 100% of the way when doing this, I have to push the key in about 95% of the way, it clicks a little different when you do that. Much like sex panther cologn, "60% of the time, it works all the time". Obviously it's not a guarantee, but that's what worked for me. Good luck with your car man.
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This happened to me about a month ago. Dealer had to replace the whole steering column because (he said) the ignition switch couldn't be replaced with the steering column locked. Goat was in the shop for two weeks because there wasn't another column shown on any dealer's inventory in the continental U.S. so replacement had to come from down under.

Sorry to hear about your problem and hope your ride won't be down as long as mine. -Jim
Thanks. I'll let everyone know how it turns out. In the meantime: ALWAYS STRAIGHTEN YOUR FRONT WHEELS WHEN YOU PULL INTO A PARKING SPACE. It makes things a lot simpler if something goes wrong.
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Steering Wheel Lock Problem

Here's an update on the status of my car. Still a boat anchor at this point. GM of North America doesn't have a steering column in stock so they are checking to see if any dealer might have one (!).

Next stop - Australia.

Really makes me want to put my name on the list for a G8
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Hey everybody,

I too had the same locked steering/ign key problem a couple weeks ago. Being the parts mgr, and having a good relationship with our #1 tech, I have some insight that may be real helpful to getting your car back and running.

What the tech showed me I will try to explain and I've attached a pic to help explain. What the tech did first after he tried for an hour to get the key to release or turn, was he got the idea of taking the ign switch off,which is mounting to the back of the ign lock cylinder. The tech then realized that what was causing the problem was likely the pin at the very rear of the lock cylinder (shown on the pic in pink) was hanging up. If you will notice the ramp to the right of the "pink" pin, you'll see it is a very steep slope for the pin to climb up. The tech reshaped the ramp to where it was almost c shaped so the pin now has very little resistance to climb the ramp. The tech also comment about how soft the metal was, and how he reshaped the ramp with nothing more than a razor blade. The main problem as I see it is the lock cylinder housing is made of way too soft metal, and the pin is wearing a spot at the bottom of the ramp and that, along with the steep slope of the ramp is causing our ignition to lock up.

If you have any other questions just PM me or email me at [email protected].

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Yes, I hear about this a lot. I know two GTO's this has happened to.

2006 Quicksilver GTO 6-speed, LS2 402, 512rwhp/451rwtq, 18/25 MPG
2007 Black Avalanche Z71, 5.3, E85, Airaid, Hotchkis swaybars, 16/21 MPG
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Steering Wheel Problem Update - Week 2

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My car is still in the shop. The parts manager says that they are looking for a steering column and a cylinder. They haven't been able to find one in the US and aren't too sure about Australia. They are supposed to call me tomorrow after they have spoken (again) to the GM Parts rep.

I had fax'd them the excellent write up and picture sent in by Partsguru1 (thanks again Doug!) but they claim that GM has advised them against any kind of "temporary" fix. I suspect they fear some kind of liability in the event of an accident.

I will keep the Board posted on my status but, in the meantime, I'd straighten my wheels before I turn the key off if I were you.
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