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Won't go into 1st gear sometimes?

I'm having this problem say twice a month when I come to a stop at a light or stop sign, and put the transmission into neutral. When it's time to go again, I push down on the clutch pedal, and try to move the shifter to 1st gear, but the shifter will only partially move into 1st with the clutch fully engaged.

I had the clutch assembly replaced about 1 and a half months ago in which I've have had the car for 3 months now. This issue has surfaced after the replacement clutch. It's an 06 with 37,XXX miles on it. Shop states that they replaced trans fluid as well or did they?

Any ideas of what the issue could be?

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I got an 06 with about 25K miles 3 months ago too and I have had this issue maybe twice, each time it happened I would drop it into 2nd and back to 1st while holding the clutch and it would fully engage. I've been wanting to get a short shifter but there's a few things on the list before it.
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Really? I don't know dude, i myself am canceling out a clutch issue due to just having it replaced a month ago.
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I'm having this problem say twice a month when I come to a stop at a light or stop sign, and put the transmission into neutral. When it's time to go again, I push down on the clutch pedal, and try to move the shifter to 1st gear, but the shifter will only partially move into 1st with the clutch fully engaged.

I had the clutch assembly replaced about 1 and a half months ago in which I've have had the car for 3 months now. This issue has surfaced after the replacement clutch. It's an 06 with 37,XXX miles on it. Shop states that they replaced trans fluid as well or did they?

Any ideas of what the issue could be?
Im going off of what was told to me at the shop that did my tune and dyno. They also replaced my clutch with a Monster Clutch Stage 2. They told me its my POS stock shifter. The linkage in the shifter is "spongie" causing there to be play in the shifter when you try to maneuver it into gear. Changing out the shifter should make a world of difference. I haven't changed mine as of yet, but its on the list as one of the next upgrades.

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Amen to that. Definitely hate the stock shifter, but can see also how that would cause it to not fully slip into first. Makes sense
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My gto and c5 do this on occasion.

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my cars having the same issue, I was thinking it was the hurst short throw that was the problem, but i might keep a closer eye on it now.
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Shifter should not being doing that. What I would try is putting it in first gear on a flat surface and with the clutch depressed rev the engine quick a few times. If you feel the car moving you have a slave and/or install problem.

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Shifter should not being doing that. What I would try is putting it in first gear on a flat surface and with the clutch depressed rev the engine quick a few times. If you feel the car moving you have a slave and/or install problem.
So what would you say to having your shifter out of gear and pushing into 1st without pressing the shifter and feeling the car slightly move, like barely at all but I can feel the car sort of load and on a flat surface it'll move really slowly.


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So what would you say to having your shifter out of gear and pushing into 1st without pressing the shifter and feeling the car slightly move, like barely at all but I can feel the car sort of load and on a flat surface it'll move really slowly.


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Like Svede said, all of this sounds like slave cylinder adjustment and or incorrect adjustment. If your car is engaging and moving with the clutch pedal fully engaged then your slave cylinder is not moving the fork with the throw out bearing enough to disengage to pressure plate.

Also with the others who have problems going into first gear, same thing. Your pressure plate is not fully disengaging. Try to move your shifter without pressing the clutch. It is very hard to do. Nearly impossible to put it in any gear but you can usually force it to neutral without engaging the clutch.

To all of you I would check your master cylinder and slave cylinder to ensure your getting full travel of the fork. The slave cylinders pivot point can be adjusted to give more travel. If the shop just threw it in and did not measure it against the old one, or check for full travel then that could be your issue.

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