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Iran Supplying the Goods

Well, most of us knew all along Iran has been supplying insurgents with material to kill our soldiers. Our Intelligence "supposedly" has hundreds of pages of proof and confiscated weapons with the year 2006 printed on them and further evidence that point to the top leaders of Iran as supplying insurgents with weapons. We also know how good our intelligence is at times

Iran has been provoking, and trying to instigate us into a confrontation.The real question now is.... How does our President deal with this? I have said all along, we are fighting Iran. We are fighting Iran on Iraqi soil. Iran is fighting a clandestine war, and now the proof is out, or so we are told. If we remember, dead Iranian "soldiers" have been found in the past mixed in with dead insurgents.

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That would be nice, however the political/ethical ramifications are too costly.
I would prefer to see some of the doomsday terror scenarios that we hear
about happening here, happen there! Dirty bomb, anthrax, deadly bio-chem
warfare, that almost any terrorist, worth its name, could be capable of carrying out.
Then it would be just a mystery...With a conspiracy theory pointing to the USA/CIA
as always of course.

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They are begging us to come after them. Just begging for it. They have a trap set.

We all know we cannot rely on the UN for help. We need every ally willing to stand up to strictly sanction and enforce it. But who? As soon as they do terroristic acts will escalate on their soil. France will pack up and head for Mexico. NO imports whatsoever to Iran. Limited exports. They want us to blockade the Gulf, they are showing us they have weapons courtesy of Russia that they will use to fire at our war ships.

We should enforce the borders where Iran and Iraq meet and any movement into Iraq should be dealt with deadly force. I just wonder what side of this situation Billary will emerge over this, she will have to check with Bill to see how she should react. Will be interesting to what solutions the Demos have on this.

I see a a situation comparable to the Cuban missile crisis emerging.

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That would be nice, however the political/ethical ramifications are too costly.
I would prefer to see some of the doomsday terror scenarios that we hear
about happening here, happen there! Dirty bomb, anthrax, deadly bio-chem
warfare, that almost any terrorist, worth its name, could be capable of carrying out.
Then it would be just a mystery...With a conspiracy theory pointing to the USA/CIA
as always of course.
Funny you should say that. A scientist involved in the Iranian nuclear program turned up dead less than a week ago. Most people are looking at Mosad, but a few are saying it has the fingerprints of the CIA on it.
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It would be best if they "messed" up and blow themselves up.
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The CIA, etc ought to be targeting Radical Islamic clerics that are enticing and organizing the war they declared on the world.

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True, it’s obvious what Iran is up to… US presence in Iraq is a threat to Iran and they have an interest to help destabilize the US occupation any way they can… This is another thing that the Administration overlooked… or refused to consider… And it’s probably not just Iran that is interested in Iraqi destabilization. China and Russia fear the US control of Iraq’s vast oil reserves… Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Turkey all do not want US bases in Iraq… And all our enemies are happy as hell and laughing as we are wasting our military resources away in Iraq…

Like I said on a different thread… there are smart ways to fight terrorism and there are the stupid ways…

If we thought there wasn’t enough terrorists in the world and needed more, this is the way to do it… If this country needed another Vietnam style war with no justification, benefit, or an end, this is the way to do it…

Bin Laden is saying, “We fight Americans there in Iraq so we don’t have to fight them here in Afghanistan…”

He knows the more fronts we fight the better his chances… A war with Iran will only benefit Bin Laden further… Stretch our defenses even more…Many wars in history have been lost when defenses are stretched thin…

IMO, Iraq is lost… Staying there only prolongs the inevitable… Especially if we have the same people in Washington making the decision…

You know, one hour Bush saying, “I’m convinced” Iran is supplying arms and the very next hour says, “I don’t think we know”. I think the later is more true in a sense he really doesn’t know what he’s doing…

BTW, what does it say about the situation in Iraq when coalition troops won’t even mount a recovery operation… I guess if you stand still for a minute you’re pretty much dead… It’s gotten that bad there…

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...itain-Iraq.php
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True, it’s obvious what Iran is up to… US presence in Iraq is a threat to Iran and they have an interest to help destabilize the US occupation any way they can… This is another thing that the Administration overlooked… or refused to consider… And it’s probably not just Iran that is interested in Iraqi destabilization. China and Russia fear the US control of Iraq’s vast oil reserves… Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Turkey all do not want US bases in Iraq… And all our enemies are happy as hell and laughing as we are wasting our military resources away in Iraq…

Like I said on a different thread… there are smart ways to fight terrorism and there are the stupid ways…

If we thought there wasn’t enough terrorists in the world and needed more, this is the way to do it… If this country needed another Vietnam style war with no justification, benefit, or an end, this is the way to do it…

Bin Laden is saying, “We fight Americans there in Iraq so we don’t have to fight them here in Afghanistan…”

He knows the more fronts we fight the better his chances… A war with Iran will only benefit Bin Laden further… Stretch our defenses even more…Many wars in history have been lost when defenses are stretched thin…

IMO, Iraq is lost… Staying there only prolongs the inevitable… Especially if we have the same people in Washington making the decision…

You know, one hour Bush saying, “I’m convinced” Iran is supplying arms and the very next hour says, “I don’t think we know”. I think the later is more true in a sense he really doesn’t know what he’s doing…

BTW, what does it say about the situation in Iraq when coalition troops won’t even mount a recovery operation… I guess if you stand still for a minute you’re pretty much dead… It’s gotten that bad there…

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...itain-Iraq.php
The shame of it is we keep trying to fight this nice war. The same thing we did in Korea and in Vietnam. You would think we would learn to break as much as possible and kill anybody that is on the other side until they submit. That's how the Romans and Greeks did it. That's how we did it in WW2. When you look back through history the successfull conquerors always crushed their enemies. Until we get that mindset again and tell the liberal media to shut up, we will continue to get mired in no-win situations.

I'm convinced that sources inside Iran are helping the insurgents. I'm not convinced the Iranian government is.

We have bases in Saudi Arabia and Turkey now, so I'm not sure why they wouldn't want the US to have bases in Iraq. Syria wouldn't be happy. Neither would Russia and China.

Some things to think about. The Iranians don't want us around, so if they keep the insurgancy up we will never leave, unless they believe that we will listen to the media and the dems and cut and run if the going keeps being difficult.
The Saudi's also don't want us setting up a democracy in Iraq. The fear there is it will spread to their country.
Turkey isn't quite sure what our plans are with the Kurds, and they really don't want an independent Kurdish state. Turkey is afraid that the Kurds in southern Turkey will try to revolt and join in with an independent Kurdish state in Iraq.
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