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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 06-18-2005, 09:02 AM Thread Starter
 
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Just wanted to say hi to all the members here. I dont currently own a GTO but am strongly considering getting one here pretty soon. If anyone has any pro's or cons they would like to speak of about the GTO I would love to hear them. Hope to see you all around the board.
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Just wanted to say hi to all the members here. I dont currently own a GTO but am strongly considering getting one here pretty soon. If anyone has any pro's or cons they would like to speak of about the GTO I would love to hear them. Hope to see you all around the board.
PRO: Owning a GTO

CON: Not owning a GTO
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Pros

- LS2/Tremec drivetrain
- A performance steal price wise
- Excellent build quality
- Sleek yet understated design (I love the look of the goat)
- Great seats
- Fantastic ride and steering
- Intoxicating exhaust note

Cons

- Not a practical car (tiny trunk, two doors, decent at best mileage)
- Weak stock stereo (I'm disappointed in the lack of low frequency response)
- No creature comforts (no auto climate control, no heated seats, no auto dim rear view, no seat memory, no auto lock in the M6 version)
- Expensive insurance, expensive tires, expensive gas (premium only)


All that being said, people should not be looking for practicality or creature comforts with a GTO.

It is what it is: a fantastic performer that will cause muscle strain in your cheeks as you cannot help but smile when you drive it.

I have been pondering one since they introduced it in 2004. I hated the non split exhaust so I waited. I love my 2005 model. The power just never gets old - it's such a blast to drive!

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Pros

- LS2/Tremec drivetrain
- A performance steal price wise
- Excellent build quality
- Sleek yet understated design (I love the look of the goat)
- Great seats
- Fantastic ride and steering
- Intoxicating exhaust note

Cons

- Not a practical car (tiny trunk, two doors, decent at best mileage)
- Weak stock stereo (I'm disappointed in the lack of low frequency response)
- No creature comforts (no auto climate control, no heated seats, no auto dim rear view, no seat memory, no auto lock in the M6 version)
- Expensive insurance, expensive tires, expensive gas (premium only)


All that being said, people should not be looking for practicality or creature comforts with a GTO.

It is what it is: a fantastic performer that will cause muscle strain in your cheeks as you cannot help but smile when you drive it.

I have been pondering one since they introduced it in 2004. I hated the non split exhaust so I waited. I love my 2005 model. The poer just never gets old - it's such a blast to drive!
while I do whole hartedly agree with you.

Common WTF this aint a TRUCK, GETTO BLASTER, HONDA INSIGHT, BMW OR BENZ

like I said I do completly agree with the pro's and con's, if any of the con's are what is holding you back you may want to take your 30k and put it in a Mini Van

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On the topic of insurance, thru the same insurance company I have now (Progressive) a Slowstang would have been another 40 a month over what I'm paying for insurance on the GTO. Expensive, I suppose, outrageous or unreasonable, No.
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I have USAA and My insurence fo me and my wife on both my GTO and truck is only 1200 a year which is alot cheeper than my insurance has been in a long time. I pay less on 2 vehicals than my parents do on 1, you may want to talk to your insurance CO, I got a safty discount on the GTO because of how well is does in its crash rating
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That's true.

I'm 30 with a clean driving record. Insuring my GTO and 98 GTP is $850/6 month for comprehensive on both.

Last year, it was almost twice that (I presume that it's cheaper now that I'm 30).
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IRT insurance, I'm paying $28 more every 6 months for my GTO compared to my 01 Z28. It helps to have a clean record and be over 30, but I find myself sucumbing to the lead foot more often in the Goat and I'm glad I've got a good radar detector...It sure is fun to drive!
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More Pros and Cons

Pros:

- Sleeper factor (nobody expects this car to be this fast - my dad was shocked)
- Cruise control even on the M6 (this has prolly saved me many speeding tickets)
- Cool green entry light near kickpanel (I know it's nothing THAT special, but I think it looks cool)
- Bright red brake calipers (another small detail that makes it look GREAT)
- Very comfortable to drive (the seats, foot room, center console, and position are all great - a LOT more comfortable than I expected)
- Tight turning radius (I guess that I expected a loooong radius as the car looks so sleek - but it can turn tighter than my GTP)
- Bright headlights and brights - a LOT brighter than my GTP
- Quiet turn signal - no typical GM click/clank click/clank
- Speed sensitive stereo volume (very welcome feature)
- Great looking instrument cluster (intuitive layout, good looking, chock full of great information)
- No MP3 support for the CD changer (I have not tested this - but I'm pretty sure this is the case)
- LED center brake light (so much better looking than the incandescents my GTP has)
- Simple, discreet rims (I love the stock 5-spoke rims - I like the satin finish and the fact that they're not distracting or gaudy)
- The car is very surprisingly quiet. I expected it to be a LOT louder than it is. Don't get me wrong, you can hear the exhaust - but it's a perfect combination.
- Better mileage than I expected (I'm getting around 19 cruising around 70/30 highway/city - and I've had my foot pretty heavy into it )

Cons

- Bad rear view vision (the rear wing and B/C pillars block a lot of the rear view vision)
- The key is HUGE (I wish the functions were on a separate fob like my GTP - but, this is largely personal preference)
- The trunk doesn't pop up when released (My GTP is the same - I wish it was like my mom's STS where it opens when you press the button - very handy when you're carrying something)
- Could use HID headlights (I think they look cool) - I may add them later - does anyone know if this has been done?
- Non functional hood scoop. Yes, I know they technically lower the engine compartment temperature and will have a theoretical effect on the performance via colder instake - BUT, how hard would it be for GM/Holden to add some plumbing to make this fully functional? They're pretty much just for looks now.
- I continue to be disappointed in the stereo - it's pretty impotent even compared to the Delco system my GTP has. It's a joke compared to a good Bose cadillac system. I forsee a speaker upgrade in my future.
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New here also, but love my new "Goat", and don't think you will really know why, till you drive one...

BTW...my insurance went up $8.00 over my SS Camaro, I can live with that.....
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