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Starting to See Some HHRs Around...

...and if this is their future, GM is doomed.



I don't care how much Bob Lutz weasels about this...it looks just like a PT Cruiser. It's still an underpowered FWD people hauler, just like the PT Cruiser.

That ship has sailed.
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Id honestly prefer people buy those than any more 6000lb battletank suvs.. Roads are dangerous enough already!
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It's still an underpowered FWD people hauler, just like the PT Cruiser.
And yet there's still a market for this vehicle, and I think it'll meet the needs of that market quite nicely.

Your toolbox has more than one tool in it, and so does GM's. The HHR may not be the right tool for the jobs we'd want a car for, necessarily, but there's quite a crowd that'll line up for a stylish people-and-stuff hauler, and frankly, they're more concerned with looks and accommodations than they are with horsepower, or which end of the car puts that power to the road.

I had a friend who used to argue that vans--all vans--are stupid. By her logic, nobody, anywhere, ever, for any reason whatsoever, should have a van. They're so ugly they should not exist, she insisted. Well, that's obviously preposterous. Lots of people need 'em, so if I worked for a car company and I was assigned a van to design, I'd naturally do my utmost to make it look nice for those people out there who needed--perhaps unenthusiastically, but of necessity--the car I had on my drawing board.

We'll learn in short order if GM came to the PT Cruiser party too late. If you ask me, the HHR clearly is in the same class as the PT, but it's enough different that it's no also-ran. Roomier, beefier and a bit more macho, I suspect it'll appeal to quite a few of the folks who are still buying PTs in good numbers. Not me, maybe, but not everyone shares my tastes--or ours.

Thank goodness, I say. I'd hate to think that every car on the road was a 400-horsepower two-door coupe. I wouldn't feel nearly as special!

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I'm thinking Aztek II- The Sequel.
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and if a 5.3 L - V8 was offered ?
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and if a 5.3 L - V8 was offered ?
then this world would be going to hell
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and if a 5.3 L - V8 was offered ?
In a GM-built FWD Cobalt / Ion platform?

I don't think so.
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...and if this is their future, GM is doomed.



I don't care how much Bob Lutz weasels about this...it looks just like a PT Cruiser. It's still an underpowered FWD people hauler, just like the PT Cruiser.

That ship has sailed.
I've heard about this car. This is the first glimpse of one I got.. <SPEW>
A GM P.T. Cruiser. That's just hard to look at. I put that in the same category as the Scion XB and the Honda Element. Although not as disgusting to look at, it still is GOSH.

P.T. Cruisers were cute when they first came out, a nostalgic walk in the park to the old street rods. Their looks for me ran out a month after I saw the first one.

WTF are these engineers thinking???? It's like they are competing against each other for the FOOGLIEST RIDE.

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Cool Rental, any idea when Bobby Lutz is going to drop off a few at Enterprise?
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I was at the Chevy dealer today getting the oil changed. They had two. I looked at it, and it looks better in person, but is still not for me. It looks to be the perfect car for a family that has a tight budget. It gets a decent EPA mileage rating. Being based off the Cobalt, it should drive well. It definately has more room inside than it looks like. I think the sticker on the one I looked at was 19,500. It was nicely equipped.
How does Groucho's comparison go, the BMW 3 series is a scalpel, the GTO is an axe, well the HHR would be a swiss army knife.
I'm also guessing that not many of us would buy this car, but people that would buy this car wouldn't understand the GTO.
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