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Why France is best place to live in world



Bindi Dupouy, an Australian living in Paris, and her French husband, just had their first child, a son born in the country.

Dupouy, a 28-year-old lawyer, got almost five months paid maternity leave from her company for the birth. She can take another seven months off beyond that -- a year total -- unpaid, if she wants, with her job guaranteed under French law.

When her son Louis was born, healthy and by way of a normal delivery, she got to stay in her local French hospital, around the corner from where she lives, for five full days, to rest.

Welcome to France, voted the best place in the world to live for the fifth year in a row by International Living magazine, which has been analyzing data and publishing its annual Quality of Life Index for 30 years.

One of the reasons France keeps winning the ranking is its world-class health care system, which Dupouy just experienced first-hand.

"They treat expecting mums like treasures here," Dupouy told CNN from her Paris apartment. "They take really good care of you. The health care system is just amazing." She said she wouldn't have gotten the same maternity leave -- or care -- back home in Australia.

At her job, Dupouy also gets seven weeks paid vacation a year, although it's her first job as an attorney since graduating with a law degree in Australia. She doesn't think twice about taking the Metro across town -- for just $1.37 a ride -- to visit a friend. Or she picks up a rental bike at one of the many computerized bike hire racks in town to get around.

France scores high marks across the board in the survey, which is done every January, from health care (100 points) to infrastructure (92 points) to safety and risk (100 points).

"No surprise," said the magazine in its report. "Its (France's) tiresome bureaucracy and high taxes are outweighed by an unsurpassable quality of life, including the world's best health care."

"The bread, the cheese, the wine," Dan Prescher, special projects editor at the magazine, told CNN, when asked why France just keeps on winning year after year. "That weighs pretty heavily in quality of life."

They treat expectant mums like treasures here. The health-care system is just amazing.

Prescher admitted the magazine had an "American bias" since the vast majority of its subscribers are Americans spending in U.S. dollars. "France is one of those golden places in the American consciousness," he said.

Following France in the top ten are Australia, Switzerland, Germany, New Zealand, Luxembourg, the U.S., Belgium, Canada and Italy, in that order.
"France always nets high scores in most categories," the magazine said. "But you don't need number-crunchers to tell you its 'bon vivant' lifestyle is special. It's impossible to enumerate the joy of lingering for hours over dinner and a bottle of red wine in a Parisian brasserie. Or strolling beside the Seine on a spring morning, poking through the book vendors' wares."

Other European countries slipped a little in the magazine's rankings this year, with the exception of France and Germany. Britain dropped to 25th place from last year's ranking of 20.

Variety is also seen as a major factor in France's appeal, with the survey noting that "romantic Paris offers the best of everything, but services don't fall away in Alsace's wine villages, in wild and lovely Corsica, in lavender-scented Provence."

The United States dropped from third to seventh place in this year's rankings, largely because of the grinding economic crisis last year. "Sustaining the American dream has escalated out of the reach of many," the magazine said.
"The depression hit the United States and Great Britain hard," Prescher told CNN. "That weighs down the ratings."

Of course, France too has its problems. The country suffers from high youth unemployment, particularly among the disaffected young people who live in its equivalent of the projects, known as les banlieues.

Late last year, the French government opened a national discussion about national identity, which has evolved into debates over whether immigrants, and particularly Muslim immigrants, are French enough. The country has the highest Muslim population of any European country, with an estimated six million living in the country.

But for the most part, French people enjoy a good lifestyle. International Living says that during their large chunk of leisure time, the French enjoy visiting the country's many beaches and Alpine ski resorts.

Dupouy -- like more famous expats Ernest Hemingway and Julia Child before her -- agrees.

She and her husband vacation every year at the seaside near Bordeaux, in the southwest corner of France, where her husband's family has a home. They also go skiing in the Alps during the winter.

She says that even if she and her husband decide to leave France for awhile during their lives, they'll always come back -- every year, probably.
"The culture, the food, the family, it's all just really nice here," said Dupouy.

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Isn't that quaint.....

France is a full fledged socialistic country. It's a nanny state. That way of life is being force fed to us. People are now waking up and saying WHOAAAAAA it ain't all peaches and cream as we thought... alas, the revolution is on.

20% of a persons income goes to the French government JUST for health care. Look at your income level.... Now deduct 20% more just for healthcare.
Average worker gets what about 21 or so % deducted weekly ok add 20% more... now deduct for 401K, Credit unions.... etc..... WHO DAT? WHO DAT WHO DAT, DAT TAKE MY MONEY? Psssssssst.. France ain't in the hole 700 Billion for health care..

They decide on the amount and allocation of technical equipment (such as MRI, CT scans…). Through its agencies, the State organizes the supply of specialized wards and secures the provision of care at all times.

HELLO can you spell HEALTH CARE RATIONING. I didn't see any mention of those coming to the USA for treatment because their government refuses them treatment in that article. HELLOOOOOO?

About 36 percent of physicians work in public hospitals or establishments. They are in essence public servants, and the amount they are paid is determined by the government. HMMMMMM I don't want a public servant cutting me open... QUALITY of CARE ??

NO mention of this in that article... >>
Expatriates in France
Since 2007, there have been some changes for EU citizens residing in France, introducing restrictions in their access to the health care system. This affects inactive individuals (not in employment) that do not have a professional activity (not working) or are looking for work, or students. The reason for those limitations is that France has to conform to the European community rules, like the other countries in the community. The new conditions of the right of stay have direct consequences on the social benefits in France.

Right of stay for inactive residence (not in employment) depends on two conditions:

* They need to have a reasonable level of income in order not to become a burden for the State.
* They need to have health coverage.

OK..... Those working get better health care than those not... DON'T LOSE YOUR JOB.

The healthcare package Prince Harry introduced affords ILLEGAL aliens FREE HEALTH CARE.... courtesy offfffffff the tax payer. Does France hand out health care to illegals?

Many doctors there belong to a union.... It will happen here too..... Wait months for an operation and be caught up in a possible strike over whatever because to curtail costs the FEDS are taking more from doctors... won't happen you say? OK.
"Doctors, trade unions and others have called national protests against French health-care cutbacks this year. One petition signed by prominent physicians said they feared the intent of the reform was to turn health care into a 'lucrative business' rather than a public service."

France Fights Universal Care's High Cost - WSJ.com
French Health Care Expert: France's System Broken, Should Copy US; Media Yawn | NewsBusters.org

Everyone agrees we need an overhaul of our health care.. It takes years to adequately do this, NOT MONTHS like it was rushed into, our gurus NOT READING what was in it.. Done in a clandestine fashion.... Once it got out what was in it.... people flipped out.

Not denying Frances healthcare is really bad... Big difference for Frances success despite the negatives (nothings perfect),,,,,, they don't have a cabinet of buffoons working at warp speed to instill to their citizens a health care package THEY don't know whats in it as we do. As France looks to the USA to improve their health care our Einsteins look to socialized medicine as more of a way of owing more of you than you may ever know.

Hopefully slowing the process down and tweaking the senate version will net everyone here affordable health care with reasonable OPTIONS and not having NO public option that was really the bottom line... done the proper way and not hap haphazardly done by those with a total disregard for the majority of the people out there.

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An interesting note, high youth unemployment.

7 weeks paid vacation in your first year. Also they get unemployment benefits for forever that the company has to pay through high taxes. It's also next to impossible to lay someone off after you hire them even with the unemployment. They also have an unrealistically high minimum wage so people without the skills that experience brings are not a good risk.

There's your reason the youth unemployment is so high. What they consider high is 20%. The rest of the population considers 9.25-11.5% unemployment to be normal. The best unemployment in France in the last 25 years is 2008 when it dipped to a very low 7.885%.

The average income in France is $26,416 per year or just over 20,000 Euros in 2008.

The average income for a physician in France is $43,440 per year. The average income for a teacher is $29,796. The average car mechanic made $16,260. Those were 2001 figures, so they are a bit low for today.

If you make $50,000 per year you pay a 30% tax rate or $15,000 per year in income tax. We're not done. You pay a personal property tax every year too based on the value of your assets. It varies depending on your wealth and the average home owner in France pays an additional $1,840 per year. If the house is deemed to be energy efficient you get a 40% credit on that $1840 the first year of ownership and 20% each year for the next four years.

All good except food, passenger transport, publishing and home repairs are taxed at a sales tax rate of 19.6%. The four excepted catagories are taxed at 5.5%.

French residents pay a 16.6% capital gains tax. So if you sell your house that you bought 10 years ago for 100,000 and sold this year for $150,000 you would pay 16.6 percent of $50,000. There is also a social contribution tax on the sale of all assets that is 12.1% of the total sale so you would need to come up with another $18,150 on top of the $8000 in capital gains. If the asset has been in your possesion for 15 years there is no capital gains tax but you still pay the social contribution tax.

There is also an annual minimum tax. All persons living in France pay a minimum tax and all children are only taxed at half the adult rate.

If you make the equivalent of $100,000 per year or more, the average tax rate is 72%. $50,000 per year is 61%.

Yep they have free health care and cheap bus transportation. I'd rather keep my money and figure out the best way for me than to pay tax rates like that.

What this country needs is less government and more personal freedom and personal responsibility.
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Yep they have free health care and cheap bus transportation. I'd rather keep my money and figure out the best way for me than to pay tax rates like that.

What this country needs is less government and more personal freedom and personal responsibility.
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The only people who get what the secular progressives push are other secular progressives. They always fail to truthfully represent both sides this is why progressive lame stream media news outlets are failing in ratings and on the verge of going out of business, right NY TIMES, right NBC, General Electric? Comcast is making a play for NBC. If Comcast acquires NBC think they won't push the S.P agenda?

While some European nations are looking to get away from socialism our knuckleheads are pushing us towards it. France was liberated by the USA they were handed a true democracy they turned it into every citizen pawned by the government. The average aged citizen there grew up depending on their government, they don't know any better. If you can't read between the lines you get duped.

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