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I am going with, and have installed on my '68 Lemans, the PST Polygraphite body bushings. They are graphite impregnated to supposedly eliminate the "squeaking" you can get from polyurethane bushings as the frame/body moves/twists. I recall I only got the bushings and then purchased the metal inserts/bolts as a kit and added these to the bushings.

The polygraphite/polyurethane bushings will also stiffen up the body-to-frame movement due to less flex as found in the original rubber mounts - which is also said to improve handling having less flexing of the frame. It is said that the rubber mounts absorb more road noise that gets transferred from the suspension to the frame/body. Can't support or deny any of these claims and one person's noise may not be what another hears or feels.

The PST kit is for the convertible which has the additional body mount under the door. I don't think it includes the radiator support bushings? You also need to buy your own bolts locally or a bolt kit. https://p-s-t.com/i-23159869-polygra...ount-kit.html# Bolt kit: https://www.carid.com/restoparts/sub...7&url=91033913

You can buy a complete urethane bushing kit for the convertible that includes the radiator support bushings, and it comes with bolts. Appears that the bushings have the metal inserts already installed. Overall, the better deal - just not sure about the "squeaks" they claim to produce. https://www.opgi.com/gto/1965/chassi...mounts/SB515K/
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You know what the crap of it was. The last time the car was on the road being driven was 1976. So all this damage came from only 12 winters in North East.
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You know what the crap of it was. The last time the car was on the road being driven was 1976. So all this damage came from only 12 winters in North East.
Yep, you don't have to tell me. The salt on the roads eats away at the cars - fender wells, lower fenders, then the trunk, and eventually the frame and floors. It is sometimes hard for people who did not get this wonderful experience to understand how often the bodies rotted away and the engine/trans was still in great shape - which was why you could get a good junkyard engine for $150 and drop it into the car you blew the engine up in. Also why the original engine was very seldom rebuilt and just junked at those prices.

Now if you were religious about washing the car & its underbody after a good salting of the roads, your car had a better chance of survival. Its what my dad did to preserve the '73 Plymouth (along with the factory undercoating) which my brother now owns. Oh, its got its share of rot, but it has been minimized and the car is still presentable and original. The cars that held up the best were those that were garage kept and really did not get out in the snow to much. But generally, by 10-12 years old, the car was a rust bucket and got junked.
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I just bought the Polygraphite body bushings. I think it will make for a better ride.

Now lets see what pops up next
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So I am dropping the 2 speed auto transmission off tomorrow morning to get it rebuilt. I was quoted 1300 for a complete rebuild.

The case is extremely dirty. I mean really covered in oily dirt. What I wanted to know is should I have the guy paint the exterior of transmission a glossy grey or just have him clean it as best as he can and leave it. The car is going to be a frame off restoration and going to be pretty darn close to a concourse restoration. I know they were not painted from the factory. But the rest of the car is going to look so nice. I am not sure just a media blast is going to work because it will leave the case rough and that will attract dirt. Maybe a media blast and then a clear coat of paint?
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Car is finally split. Looks like a previous hack job on floor repair. Extremely dirty and oily. So far nothing we did not expect on the body.

Frame was a little of a different story. It looks real rough but there are no soft spots. Just real dirty and oily. One of the trailing arms was bent and I think it will have to be replaced.
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Iím in the same boat, so donít feel alone, I traded for a 1973 GTO and after I got it home after a in the dark dealing and now I have daylight Iím finding the really ruff areas of the car, I also live in a state that gets heavy snow and salt on the roadways. Your moving right along on your GTO restoration, I hope it goes well for you, I had to talk it out with one of the members here on the forum, I started to feel that I took on more than I should have due to the fact that there isnít a lot of stuff available for the 73 and what I have found they want more than what pockets can offer, lol, So, keep up your great work and moving forward, it will reward you in the end.
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Attached are some pictures of the frame. The area under the engine was just caked on with grease dirt and oil. The whole front suspension and steering is going to need to be redone. The frame looks ok. No soft spots. But I can tell if it doesn't get done now it will need to be replaced soon.

The lat picture of is of this charger the body shop just finished. It looked awesome and looked like black glass.
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