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70 GTO Hardtop restoration...Where to begin...?

Greetings,

I am new to the forum and I have finally(after 10+ years of nagging) acquired my baby from a good friend and need a little advice on where to best direct my finances and attention for the resto.

The original engine(455HO) and tranny(4spd) are going out for complete overhaul within a week or two.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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Sweet! Nice find! Welcome to the forums. What shape is the interior in? Looks like you just need to get your wallet out and throw everything you have at it (and then some).
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Sweet! Nice find! Welcome to the forums. What shape is the interior in? Looks like you just need to get your wallet out and throw everything you have at it (and then some).
That's where the "advice" comes into play....

More pics are available @ Pictures of Sliders' Goat!

May main concern was what to do first since I don't ahve the $40-50,000 just layin' around to drop into her at once.
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That's where the "advice" comes into play....

More pics are available @ Pictures of Sliders' Goat!

My main concern was what to do first since I don't ahve the $40-50,000 just layin' around to drop into her at once.
Wow slider, you sure have your work cut out for you. I have seen worse.
My compliments on your choice of year. I have a sweet spot for the 70.

Anyway, back to your question.
I think the first thing you need to do is decide what it is that you want out of your project? Are you looking for a concours restoration? A cool old cruisin machine? An investment?
Deciding up front what you want from the car will direct your path.
For me, I couldn't really care if I ended up with a 100 point show car. For me, I wanted the car that I always dreamed of that I would not be afraid to take out of the garage.
My car did not have the original engine anymore. It is correct for the car, just not the original, so I didn't have to worry about all the little details that go along with an all original, though I wanted it to look original.
You have a good start, sending your engine and trans out for a rebuild.
Nice thing about restoring an old car is that you can have several things going on at one. While the engine and trans are out, you can be taking the body and interior apart to take inventory to see what can be salvaged and what needs to be replaced.
Are you planning on doing the work yourself, or having someone do it for you?
Just take your time and work at a comfortable pace. Don't rush and get frustrated when things don't go as planned. Just work on it a little at a time and before you know it, you'll be turning the key, and turning heads!
Good Luck man, I look forward to seeing it progress.

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Nice Car with a ton of potential, I started a frame off on a 66 in March and here is what I have done;

Use some zip lock bags and a sharpie and label the location of all small parts, nuts and bolts that you remove.

Removed the front clip and seperated the core support, inner and outer fenders.
Removed the engine and transmission.
Removed the interior to bare metal,
Removed the bumpers, deck lid and doors,
Disconnect the fuel line from the fuel tank and remove.
Disconnect the parking brake cable and remove.
Remove the body bolts and raise the body off of the frame.
Have the rolling chassis sand blasted,
disassemble the front control arms and replace the bushings and ball joints, inspect the pitman arm, tie rods, drag link and idler arm.
Inspect the front springs for damage.
Remove the rear control arms and replace the bushings.
Inspect the springs.
Inspect the differential and replace the seals and bearings.
Replace the tranny cross member bushings,

This is where the restoration starts,

Clean and paint (powder coat if funds permit) the frame, control arms and differential. (60% gloss black)
Reassemble the rolling chassis, rebuild the brakes and replace the wheel bearings.
Install the fuel line and brake lines.
Install the rebuilt engine, tranny and drive shaft.

Now start with the body, media blast or chemically remove all old paint, make necessary body repairs. If you have restored the under carriage you can set the body back onto the frame with new body bushings.

Now it is a matter of restoring and reassembling the car.

Good luck and post pictures of you progress.

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just give it a good bath and a buff and air up the tires, might turn out good enough to cruize around in until the funds arive to do a good restoration.
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Thanks for the tips.

My ultimate goal is to have a sharp weekend driver. I intend to keep this car for as long as I'm around, so the little things that increase value are not going to be a major concern; however, I want to do it right so the show Nazi's don't pick her apart for all of the "wrong" things that I did, and had done.

I intend to do as much as I possibly can, not for $$$ reasons, but because I want to do it. Any body welding or major fills I will have professionally done and will definately be coating the frame as 05gto mentioned.

Bonus: The previous owner, a long time friend who is 30 years my elder, not only gave me the car, but has offered to finance 50% of the resto just because he wants to see the car come back to life so he can recall the day he bought it in 70', before he's outta this place.

New question. In stripping the interior, do I need to keep any of the carpet or upholstery(besides samples), or can I toss the majority of it? The reason I ask is during the 23+ years this car sat....under a messy Chinese Elm Tree....chickens and rats called it home. It's kind of nasty on the floor and under the seats.
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Thanks for the tips.

My ultimate goal is to have a sharp weekend driver. I intend to keep this car for as long as I'm around, so the little things that increase value are not going to be a major concern; however, I want to do it right so the show Nazi's don't pick her apart for all of the "wrong" things that I did, and had done.

I intend to do as much as I possibly can, not for $$$ reasons, but because I want to do it. Any body welding or major fills I will have professionally done and will definately be coating the frame as 05gto mentioned.

Bonus: The previous owner, a long time friend who is 30 years my elder, not only gave me the car, but has offered to finance 50% of the resto just because he wants to see the car come back to life so he can recall the day he bought it in 70', before he's outta this place.

New question. In stripping the interior, do I need to keep any of the carpet or upholstery(besides samples), or can I toss the majority of it? The reason I ask is during the 23+ years this car sat....under a messy Chinese Elm Tree....chickens and rats called it home. It's kind of nasty on the floor and under the seats.
Sounds like you have a great set up there. It's really cool that the original owner wants to help you out with it.
As far as the interior, just ditch it. For the most part, if you try and save anything, it is not going to look right with all the new stuff and you'll end up replacing it anyway.
The quality of interior restoration parts is very good and you won't be disappointed. When I did my interior, I didn't replace the rear seat upolstery because it was in great shape. That was, until I got the new carpet and front seats in. Took me about two minutes to order the rear after that!
Just clean it out to the floor boards and start fresh.

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You can trash the carpet, but you`ll more then likely need the seat frames. Most interior kits just have the seat cover material. Keep the pics coming as you progress.
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Save the old headliner trim, kick, quarter and door panels. Those clips and fasteners do not come with the new interior kits. My old interior is stored in boxes until the restoration is complete and then everything will go into the dumpster.

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