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Factory paint: did the dash color match the exterior color?

I'm restoring a 65 GTO to the specs used when it rolled off the assembly line (have PHS docs).

I'm painting it with a factory scheme and factory colors (correct semi-gloss black on pan, factory color chip for exterior, factory spatter paint in trunk, etc.)

The paint shop is trying to convince me that the dash should be a different color than the exterior - that it should match the interior color (upholstery/door panels). I suspect they are confusing some other GM car, like a Chevelle with my Pontiac project.

Do you any of you have a restoration guide, and could you tell me whether the dash is supposed to be a color other than the color of the exterior?

FWIW - the exterior is Blue Charcoal Poly and the interior upholstery will be Black.

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Can you post a photo of your body trim tag? Need your trim code...
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The trim tag was stolen by the prior body shop.

I do have the PHS docs. What code am I looking for?
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213-30 would be black semi gloss and flat. The instrument surround would be flat rough, lower dash Black semi gloss and the top of the dash from the pad to glass should be flat.
Would help to know what code you are working with to be sure.
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The trim tag was stolen by the prior body shop.

I do have the PHS docs. What code am I looking for?
Page 3 of the dealer order form from your PHS docs should have an example of the trim tag and a legend at the top of the page. Your codes would be highlighted in yellow. Blue Charcoal exterior code is "B". On the right side is a legend for interior trim color codes. What is highlighted there?

Should also be on the BHC. Look for a box with color or trim...

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Ok, got it.

This car originally came in Teal Turquoise (L) with a Turquoise interior (214-36).

I'm painting the car Blue Charcoal (B). Which interior color was typically matched to this?

Choices: Black, Turquoise, Gold, Red, Blue, Parchment & Black.

I'm guessing it wasn't Blue, because that would be weird. We can rule out Gold, Red and Turquoise. So either Black or Parchment.

Both of those selections mean that The dashboard and inner door sills were black?!

Does anyone have photos of a Blue Charcoal car? I'm looking at the Ultimate GTO site, and can't tell if the interiors are Blue or Blue Charcoal.

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Ok, got it.

This car originally came in Teal Turquoise (L) with a Turquoise interior (214-36).

I'm painting the car Blue Charcoal (B). Which interior color was typically matched to this?

Choices: Black, Turquoise, Gold, Red, Blue, Parchment & Black.

I'm guessing it wasn't Blue, because that would be weird. We can rule out Gold, Red and Turquoise. So either Black or Parchment.

Both of those selections mean that The dashboard and inner door sills were black?!

Does anyone have photos of a Blue Charcoal car? I'm looking at the Ultimate GTO site, and can't tell if the interiors are Blue or Blue Charcoal.

T

Factory interior color choices with the Blue Charcoal paint were black, dark blue, or parchment. Optional exterior pinstripe color was ivory.
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Looks like B exterior color was available with 213-30 Black, 217-33 Blue or 218-3E Parchment interiors. If I am reading the charts correctly. ..the dash would be black for the black or parchment interiors and dark blue for the blue interiors.

There is a color code for Blue Charcoal interior dash paint but it doesn't appear that was used on any of the 237 (Le Mans) models. Maybe only on the Tempest line?

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What book is that? Does it have the codes for 1964.
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What book is that? Does it have the codes for 1964.
From some book that I picked up years ago... don't remember where though?
Here are the 64 colors.

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