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GTO-Vette hybrid

An old co-worker of mine found a 67 GTO online and bought it sight unseen. Had it shipped from Oregon or Washington, to NJ and then called me to help him restore it. When I saw the car, I was shocked. It was rotted out so bad, even extending up into the underside of the hood, and the roof! I tried to dissuade him from building it, but he persisted. When I had an opening in my garage, we got it in, and started stripping it. We pulled the body off the frame, after reinforcing it with LOTS of tubing, and angle iron!
It's probably the worst car I've ever started on. And I've done cars from the 40's and 50's, that were pretty bad. I tried to get him to decide on how we were going to build it, as a full resto was not practical. Wrong engine and trans, no interior, broken, and missing glass, and trim, no front bumper, grill or surround. I presented many options to him, but we still had to start with buying and installing new sheet metal.
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Pretty much anything available for the body shell had to be ordered. Full floors, trunk, quarters, rockers, even the roof. It looked as if it had been junked, and a car placed on top of it, it was so bad.

I'm not a pro shop, I do this as a "serious" hobby, adding to my tools and equipment over the last 40 years. So I've got some pretty good machines. This will help immensely on this build!
Since we had an open book on what type of car to build, I presented Freddy with options. Pro street (too dated), Pro touring (good but could be expensive), 60's street machine or gasser (a bit overdone nowadays), or Kustom (mostly body mods, lowered, perhaps chopped, change grill, taillights, etc). Fred couldn't make any decisions yet, so we proceeded to get the body back in shape.
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Floors, trunk, inner wheel wells, rockers, quarters, pretty standard stuff.
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Don't know how many of you guys do this, or require your body shops to do it, but I prefer to lead in the quarter to roof joint, just like the factory did. Guess being a 50's custom guy has it's rewards.
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WOW!! That's quite an undertaking. Your friend would've been better off buying one done with the money he'll have in that one! Kudos to you for helping him out. Looks like you have a good handle on it.
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Just fooling around, I had Fred pull one of the Vette's tail lights out of the car, and I made a hammerform to set it back flush into some sheet metal. Doing a trial run of how to form the tail light panel, if we decide to go that route. I kind of like it, it lets us do a sequential tail light set up. Might put a small break or peak through the center of the panel, not sure yet of anything.
For those interested in sheet metal fabrication: A hammerform is a great tool to make a panel with curved flanges, or complex shapes, on a relatively flat panel. You need to cut out 2 pieces of MDF, aluminum, or plywood, one conforming the shape you want, the other slightly larger. You clamp the sheet metal in between the 2 with as many clamps as you can, and then cut out anything you have to, or trim it to the desired overlap ( you can't have too much overlap on a complex shape as it will be hard to stretch/shrink the metal to fit. An open flange, it doesn't matter) The slowly hammer the metal over the edge of the form until it hugs it very tightly. Then unclamp and release. The form effectively holds the surrounding metal pretty flat, no distortion. You can do minor adjustments to the piece afterwards with a shrinker/stretcher tool if desired, or necessary. y (as in putting a second curve into a curved flange panel)

On this piece, we are trying 3 lights on each side. Might go with red, clear, amber lights if the owner decides what type of look he wants, instead of 3 red. Not our final piece, but we can mock it up in place and see if we like it.
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Really nice work. Thanks for the tips on the hammerform.
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The firewall had some damage, and rust too (What a surprise!). Since we're going custom on this, decided to smooth out the firewall by getting rid of the seams, and making a new bead rolled one. It has been welded solid, leaded in, and primered by now, have to get finish pics.
Thought about imprinting the Pontiac 'triangle' in the open area.
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The firewall had some damage, and rust too (What a surprise!). Since we're going custom on this, decided to smooth out the firewall by getting rid of the seams, and making a new bead rolled one. It has been welded solid, leaded in, and primered by now, have to get finish pics.
Thought about imprinting the Pontiac 'triangle' in the open area.
Nice. What gauge steel are you using with the rolling dies? 20ga?
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Firewall, and floors I prefer to do in 16 or 18 Ga. Even sheet metal on older cars I do with 18 Ga. 20 seems to flimsy. If I could find the correct 19 ga. for body fab, I'd buy it! My roller can handle 16 ga, so better off with heavier steel.
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