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okso raced my friends 05 m6. it was bone stock i have the k and n intake thats it.. turns out its nowhere near a blowout. i was a a foot or two ahead of his back bumper and we raced from about 50 to 130. i was pleasantly surprised i wasnt blown away.
 

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okso raced my friends 05 m6. it was bone stock i have the k and n intake thats it.. turns out its nowhere near a blowout. i was a a foot or two ahead of his back bumper and we raced from about 50 to 130. i was pleasantly surprised i wasnt blown away.
I would bet he hasn't had his car long. He most likely had the car in too high a gear or something. There's no way an 04 GTO is faster from 50 - 130mph. If you pulled on him up to 130mph, something else was going on. He must be really bad a shifting or like I said, started out in too high a gear.

An 05 dyno's a good 30 + whp more than an 04. It also weighs slightly less. Both cars have the same transmission. So drivers being equal an 05 will easily beat an 04 by several tenths in the 1/4 mile.

But anything can happen in a race. I ran 12.8 @ 105 mph in my STi with just exhaust and intake. I know several other guys with STi's that haven't run any better than mid 13s with the same mods. Its all about the driver.

I watched a guy at the track that could do any better than 14.1 @ 100 mph in an 04 GTO. While other guys in here have run 13.1 -13.4. So the driver is very important. But there's no way an 04 GTO is as fast or faster than an 05.

Everyone I've talked to that has driven both cars says there is a very noticeable difference in power between the 04 and 05s and that the 05 is much faster.
 

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i didnt say i pulled on him i said i lost but by very little.. he's a good friend and and excellent driver as good as i am it was an even match up. i know it should have been worse accordingo t the numbers but thats what happened.. we did it a couple of times to makes sure it wasnt a fluke.. if u figure out the exact power your looking at 400 and 395 to around 375 and 385.. not a gigantic difference. i was just as surprised as u were i was expecting to get destroyed.
 

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and by the way i have driven both and the difference isnt all the noticeable u only notice it when going off the line and when topping out gears since redline is higher...
 

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I was just curious, why do you say that the '05 GTO is lighter than the '04?

I really didn't know there was a difference really, is it pretty significant?

Maybe cutting those tacky-looking holes in the hood proves as weight reduction! :lol:
 

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I was just curious, why do you say that the '05 GTO is lighter than the '04?

I really didn't know there was a difference really, is it pretty significant?

Maybe cutting those tacky-looking holes in the hood proves as weight reduction! :lol:

The 05 GTO weighs about 40 lbs less than the 04? I really don't know why. Thats really not enough of a weight saving to do much. But it does weigh slightly less. That along with the increase in HP should easily make it faster than the 04 , which it is.

But I can definately see a well driven 04 beating an 05.
 

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well, i drove an 04 and now own an 05. from a personal, seat-of-the-pants feeling, the 05 feels like it pulls stronger. however, i don't think it's very noticeable until higher speeds (70mph+). what i've discovered in the past is that if you start with a high hp number and then add more hp, it's not really noticeable until higher speeds (i modified my 300zx twin turbo from 300hp to 396hp and couldn't tell much of a difference until i got above 80mph, and then it was a huge difference). i think that's probably why the new mustang is close to the gto in 0-60 and 1/4 mile, but if you look at the 0-130mph numbers in C&D (or was it R&T?), the GTO is 9 seconds faster. it's also why some of the little cars with low hp can keep up with the GTO until about 80 or 90mph. i don't really care for stoplight-stoplight racing because lots of cars are fast off the line (especially if they're AWD) - it's more fun to see their faces when they pull alongside on the interstate and think they can keep up only to find out they're in the minor leagues.
 

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who cares, the back of the 04's look so much better than an 05..I wouldn't have bought an ugly thing like that..now the 05 hood does look better IMHO..that is why I am getting one!! :rofl:
 

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who cares, the back of the 04's look so much better than an 05..I wouldn't have bought an ugly thing like that..now the 05 hood does look better IMHO..that is why I am getting one!! :rofl:
Very interesting. Everyone at the track Saturday made the opposite comment about the rear or the car.
 

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id have ot say i agree i like the back of the 04 better the 05 is a little to showy for me, although i like the gm kit u can get for the car. at first i didnt like the exhaust on one side but now i prefer it. that and the tips on the 05 are HUGE, way to big for my liking
 

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the back of the 05's are tiiiiight :agree :agree the 04's are plain and and i test drove an 04 for about 20 minutes, and the 05's are by far much faster :party:
 

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Very interesting. Everyone at the track Saturday made the opposite comment about the rear or the car.
yea I would say so. Who wouldn't like dual SEPERATE exhaust ? The 05 does look a bit better from the back.
 

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It sounds like the '04's are a little jealous of the extra power and better styling for just an additional ~$2K. We got the better end of the stick as the '04's served as a trial and error model. A lot of the problems I see posted on this Forum are mostly on the '04's. Very minimal for the '05.

Thanks guys, my car wouldn't have been such a bitchin' car if it wasn't for you! :lol:
 

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It sounds like the '04's are a little jealous of the extra power and better styling for just an additional ~$2K. We got the better end of the stick as the '04's served as a trial and error model. A lot of the problems I see posted on this Forum are mostly on the '04's. Very minimal for the '05.

Thanks guys, my car wouldn't have been such a bitchin' car if it wasn't for you! :lol:
Your welcome son, just show your 04 driving daddy's some respect. :D
 

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To both '04 & '05 owners...seriously, just enjoy what you have. I have seen 3 GTO's in the last 12 months that weren't mine, do you think outside this forum and in the court of public opinion people really care what model year you have let alone know the difference? NO.

My only regret is settling for an automatic because I didn't want to drive 4 hours to get a manual, my ears, left foot, and right hand are shaking at the thought of driving through town in second gear and not fourth.
 

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sboylan - :agree I agree, there aren't too many people out there that know too much about this car. '04's you know we still love you :cheers

Everyone just make sure you are handing all those Mustangs their a**es when they pull up beside you. I have a personal thing against Mustangs.
 

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yea well a little fyi the difference in cost between the 04 and 05 is only 500 bux thats at cost. and honestly the point of this thread wasntg to say 04's are faster than 05's cuz thats crap its just to say they arent much faster than 04's. i would like to seehem both on a dyno to be honest, cuz u never know til u get on the good old dyno :cheers
 

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fyi check the numbers 04 gto's hit 60 in 5.3 seconds 05 4.8-5.0 seconds, 1/4 mile, 04's 13.7-14.0 05's 12.9-13.2 thats a big difference when racing, also the 05's will hit 100 between 11.5-11.7 seconds the 04's take about 12.8-13.0 seconds given both cars driven the same that is a huge difference. and also the 05's trap around 108.5 mph through the 1/4 mile, the 04's trap around 103.5 :seeya:
 
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