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I don't typically like pulling subjects I see on The Other Forum over here, but I though this subject to be VERY IMPORTANT to 2004 owners. I'm unsure if the LS2 has the same fuel line location- if it does, you need to check as well.

A guy was tooling along for a cruise, when things started to go Very Badly:

...just cruisin along at about 40. went for teh clutch to find 6th gear, no clutch? so i start slowing to pull over and as i slowed the smoke started coming through the vents. I pulled the ebrake as i flailed around grabbing whatever i could reach. when it slid to a stop the flames started coming out the back/drivers side of the hood and wheelhouse, so i started throwing **** into the road and made a break for it. glad i grabbed my camera on the way out!
Gary




Cause was the left Fuel Rail Cover (FRC) wearing a hole in the fuel line! This has been a known issue for some time.

I've been monitoring mine for a while now, but with the miles I pile on last time I looked could have been two or three oil changes (up to 20k miles) ago...reading his account and seeing those horrific shots, I pulled the damned FRCs off today and...sure as sh1t-- I've got some pretty bad wear. Check the silver date-stamped label, and the deep slice that has formed:





There are some fixes- sliding 3/8" tubing over the fuel line as firesleeve, for example. In my case, the FRCs are staying the feck off, and I'm hitting up the dealer for a new fuel line!

Whatever you do-- please inspect this NOW!!!!
 

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Members GTO Smoke and Burn!!!!!!!!!!

This Post iS from Grr in the LS1GTO.COM Member Forum, im posting these eles where so that it dosent hapen to other GTOs, WARNING The pics are Graphic.


hi everyone. had a pretty bad day yesterday. first off i would like to thank all of the people on this forum for the past year i have been a member, ive seen some good people and enjoyed it.
on another note, i would really encourage all 2004 GTO owners to go outside, open your hoods, and check your fuel line where it meets that plastic engine cover, drivers side, rear of it. MAKE SURE IT ISNT RUBBING ON IT. and if it is, just lightly bend the steel line at the firewall.
Anyways, some of you may have figured out what happened by that alone, im not going to say, because i want you all to look at the link an find out.

WARNING!! SENSITIVE GTO MATERIAL INSIDE, DO NOT LOOK IF YOU HAVE A HEART PROBLEM OR ARE OTHERWISE WEAK IN THE STOMACHE!!!





 

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Thanks for the post! Both of you.

Groucho posted pictures of his fuel line under another heading. I suggest everyone take a look under their hood. I did and mine looks the same as his, but I only have 20k on it.
 

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So Sorry for the guy,

I know how it feels to watch your car go up in flames, been there done that one!!I had only been out of the car for 5 minutes when they came and got me and told me the car was burning!!

Only mine was a GTP, but thanks for the post we've got an '04 and will be checking it out soon!! I don't care to ever go through that again!!

My GTP was a birthday present from my husband, so that made it even worse. When they finally put the fire out the only thing salvagable at all on the car was the trunk lid and the 2 back rims.

Monica
 

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That really sucks. :(

I have an 06 and tried checking on my car; I'm not totally sure where to look though. :eek: (Hey, I'm not very mechanically savvy.. ) I did see something that looked similar, on the right-hand side of my engine as I look inside (would be left if you were in the driver's seat). There is a rubbery hose with the yellow sticker like in Groucho's picture, but it goes into the rear side of the GTO-labelled valve cover (??) So that doesn't seem it could be a fuel line (maybe something emissions?) It has a foam-rubbery wrap over part of its length. It doesn't seem to touch anything, and there is one of those thicker, plasticky corrugated hoses between it and the firewall.

Egh.. it's dark so I can't take a picture. Does that sound like the right thing or am I totally off base? I don't own any Chilton manuals and I can't find anything online, at least so far.
 

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Clueless said:
That really sucks. :(

I have an 06 and tried checking on my car; I'm not totally sure where to look though. :eek: .

Dohhhh!!!! I have an '06 on order. Guys...PLEASE let us know if this has been corrected post '04.
 

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I hope that guy has GAP Ins.
 

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powerman_dsr said:
also we dont know if the problem has been corrected, i belvie some one said it had.
If the fuel line is the part I was looking at in my engine (I'm honestly not sure), there is a foam rubbery wrap over part of its length that doesn't seem to appear in Groucho's picture. So, if the foam rubbery wrap is supposed to help protect it against scraping, then perhaps there is a fix in place. I don't know how good the foam rubbery wrap would protect it--as I mentioned in my earlier post, I'm not even sure I was looking at the right part :willy:
 

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Checked the fuel line on my '04 today. It cracked in one area and has been cut by the fuel rail cover in another. I've got an oil change coming up in 300 miles -- so I'll have the dealer change it.

The inside edge of the fuel rail cover is surprisingly sharp. Used 100 grit to remove the edge -- then smoothed it out with 1000.

If you have an '04 -- this is a MANDATORY inspection and correction.
 

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And just to add a note, in case anyone else is like me and not positive what to check, the things that I was calling "valve covers" earlier are the fuel rail covers. I didn't notice they don't go all the way down at the sides. In that case, I'm pretty sure I was looking at the right thing, but I didn't take the FRCs off.

Maybe those with 04s will get the rubbery foam around their replacements?
 

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I have 9000 miles on my 2004 and looked at it today because of this post and sure as **** my fuel line is being cut by my fuel rail cover as well. I'm so thankful that the individual was able to get out of his car and sorry that he had to watch such an unfortunate event. This kind of crap is scary especially if you have young kids like me who are both in car seat and enjoy riding in my car. THANKS FOR THIS POST!!! AND SORRY ABOUT THE GTO.
 

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b_a_betterperson said:
Checked the fuel line on my '04 today. It cracked in one area and has been cut by the fuel rail cover in another. I've got an oil change coming up in 300 miles -- so I'll have the dealer change it.

The inside edge of the fuel rail cover is surprisingly sharp. Used 100 grit to remove the edge -- then smoothed it out with 1000.

If you have an '04 -- this is a MANDATORY inspection and correction.

Thanks for posting this, and we'll be doing this for sure!!

We were also considering putting a strap on the fuel line to pull it down and away from the fuel rail cover and mounting it with the screw that is directly below the line.

Monica
 

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VeeTec said:
I would have called our Arson investigator out, just to make sure.

I am not saying the fire wasn't caused by a defect, as many are, but the amount of Arson related auto fires is surprising. Especially on a new car with low miles. Hopefully it wasn't a case of second thoughts gone bad.

It's not very hard to find the starting point, and if he is telling the truth, the evidence will agree.

If this is a defect, there will be others, and Chrysler needs to nip it fast.
On another forum I posted about a new Charger catching on fire and a LEO, police supervisor, in his user profile, posted this comment. In no way am I saying this incident is arson, just pointing out that when your car does catch on fire be prepared for the police or Insurance adjuster to investigate and to rule out this possibility.
 

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Those confused as to where to look:

The "FRCs" - Fuel Rail Covers- are the plastic silver & black fake "rocker covers" that say "GTO."

They come off by simply grasping them and yanking firmly up. No tools required.

The fuel line is routed under the back left (driver's side) cover. Inspect where the fuel line first intersects the molded "tunnel" of the now-removed left FRC.

If it looks like this, then you may have a problem:

 
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